[Guide] Aoe Burst >>> Sapper + Schwarze Reiter

[seifer0692]

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[eee821022]

As u say there are lots buff can provide us critical rate, right?

1. rogue is a full STR class, he doesn’t need dex, and 300 STR= 658 patk and 658 Catk, which is really close to glassmole effect 70% of ur patk around 1000(u are full dex)
2. !!!krivis c3 is the only way co-op with someone using glassmole!!!
   U use glassmole means u need krivis c3 to extent ur buff duration dude.
   Are u sure u are playing ET now?
3. Swift Steps can’t share ciritical rate 25% to all member in ur party, please dont let ppl laugh u.
   4.ARE YOU SURE u can get 100% critcal rate as low dex???
   can u post ur stat + state after buff, as i know u need 800~900 CR

• Critical rate for full dex:
  Mob crit res 20~100, lv330
  490 ~ 590 = 60% CR
  650 ~ 750 = 80% CR
  800 ~ 900 = 100% CR

(x-20~100)*42/330=100
x-20~100=785.7
x=805.7~905.7

[ginoang_linx]

swift step only shares evasion not critical rate, same goes with quick cast sharing fast cast time but doesn’t share the increase in magic damage.

I think it boils down to preference, while this is a viable fun build, I just think wasting 2 circles for sapper isn’t worth it, with rogue capture having a long CD and boom trap doesn’t hit flying as well. OP has already played so many classes so this build works well and I can call this his fun build

[b4nj0]

if you don’t have team and use this as your main farmer is ok.

but to anyone else who aim for a party set-up i will suggest a2 with different cards.

that’s pretty much it

[eee821022]

1. Sapper SR is not for fun, if u read how i calculate the dmg for R3 and Sap2
   I agree broom trap can’t deal fly type, same as ele
2. [quote=“b4nj0, post:14, topic:334790”]
   if you don’t have team and use this as your main farmer is ok.
   but to anyone else who aim for a party set-up i will suggest a2 with different cards.
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"Please mention"
if u dont have a team with krivis c3,then ur A2 glassmole is useless, expect u could build full STR and still have 100% critical rate then i delete rogue part change to A2 (ur chance to shut my mouth up)

Please read all reply then do summary or i have to repeat lots of times

[seifer0692]

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[ginoang_linx]

yeah I do agree with you I like having 25 crit and 80% damage, and yes even with spiritual chains, it doesn’t share attributes. If this is the OPs build and its working then its good, but to be like this you need to commit to getting your WW cards to level 10 just for the crit rate. since he’s is playing a lot of archer class I don’t see anything wrong with it, but maybe hard for new archer players

[seifer0692]

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[eee821022]

1.You give me a reallly good idea, does link share glassmole as well?
2 Rogue make this build go full STR rather than full DEX to hit 100%CR
3.Max peta is 14 dex, 1 dex almost 1.25 CR 14 = 18
4.Your research:

[Guide][Under Update Soon][Theory Craft BiS]Archer ET/Dungeon Meta Stat Guide + Mergen Guide @Lv 330 update 03/11/16 Gem Patch

olz after all calculation and BiS seem like full str is best, even without BiS but with glad band - vubbe - ellaganos x8 lv 10 max peta can be 80% CR in ET full str. if get lol set + new bow go for 95% CR pure STR.

need bonus point to see how much high str will go, but i think this is best build.

(only thing i’m not sure maybe is 8 but they’re doing good, maybe we can maximize even more)

Ellaganos? not Glassmole?
5.

you can’t calculate 20~100 the CR changes with the crit res and is so stupid calculate ideal dex base on higest crit def.

why i can’t? i can even put 100~150 if we need
mobs have different CR res, right? If u dont know the range, how can u sure u can always got 80% or more

6. glassmole 6sec u say[quote=“seifer0692, post:16, topic:334790”]
   you for sure you know how much those “6 sec” are important on a 30 sec rotation.
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   yup it’s important if mobs will end in 6 sec, but mobs are spawning and keep coming after ur burst time, rest time lower dmg. That’s why ppl who using glassmole need to work with krivis c3, otherwise they choose ellaganos.

7.[quote=“seifer0692, post:16, topic:334790”]
yes just don’t know that glass mole increase base skill dmg % not your phys dmg stat. making all you say total wrong.

so man GL for a 5000 dmg skill boost is 5000*80/100.
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Yup i am really confused this part, when i use sp potion it shows me my patk chnaged, othersie i didnt feel my skill dmg +80%(retreat lv15 1680)

8. last thing STR buff, is buff rogue not buff who go for dex, i forget u equip 8 ellagnos to hit 80% not glassmole, so u can put 170 points on dex rest for STR (112point)?

One more , i do mention that this build is not for newbie cus money if u read[quote=“eee821022, post:1, topic:334790”]
Sap Rogue SR

This build is focusing on end game, so I am not suggest newbie play…money money
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[seifer0692]

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[eee821022]

1. U showed me ur guide, and told me its wrong that didn’t update…

2. OK, Let;s talk about 0 CR res

• sneak hit with 200-300 basical CR from(80base+ 2sissel + max peta + gear additional state) can deal 89%,(Werewolf card test)
• so i can go 300 STR = physical atk, which is 658p + 658c
• I am waiting the STR buff, 658/658 could be much more, so
  it will be stronger than full dex + glassmoe 80%
  but lose full STR, 90% CR Glassmole 80% (i am sure if u can full STR + glassmore + 90% CR it is op)

3. can i know urs?
   DEX or CR with/ without buffs,and
   CR/ DEX from GEAR
   STR
   Gems / Cards
   and SW BD (like A2R3SW3)

[seifer0692]

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[eee821022]

Yup i know rogue is solo now, comepare with op team build provide 99% CR low DEX, too OP
my original compare tagert is full dex type.

i have a question.
Isbality has 3 hole but -120 against beast
i can use 1 hole for yellow gem +470 critical atk
then 470 -120 = still get 350 much more than bandit right?
i am not sure yet

[seifer0692]

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[Reilet]

R3 SR3 vs R1 S2 SR3 vs S3 SR3

Relevant skills steady aim + Assault fire, broom trap, barrage + feint.

Assuming all hits crit, no mob defense (for the sake of easier calc).

1000 p-atk

• steady 15 + AF: (1000 + 2802) * 1.5 * 1.2 = 6,843.6 per hit
  33 hits: 225,838.8
• steady 5 + AF: (1000 + 2803) * 1.5 * 1.1 = 6,273.3
  40 hit: 207,018.9
• AF: (1000 + 2803) * 1.5 = 5,704.5
  40 hit: 228,180
• broom trap 10: (1000 + 545) * 1.5 * 1.5 = 3,476.25
  22 hits: 76,477.5
• broom trap 5: (1000 + 330) * 1.5 = 1,995
  22 hits: 43,890
• barrage 5 + feint: (1000 + 250) * 1.5 = 1,875
  10 hits: 18,750
• barrage 15 + feint: (1000 + 543) 1.5 = 2,314.5
  10 hits: 23,145

R3 SR3: 295,273.8
S3 SR3: 264,726
R1 S2 SR3: 307,158.9

Will finish once i get home.

[eee821022]

yup i have two bd in my guide, but i didnt play C3 sapper yet,
as i said i write both cus i know theres a glassmoe group
but it is in full dex

[seifer0692]

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[eee821022]

Steady+AF+Broom trap
(1000+2802) * 1.5 * 1.1 * 33 hits +(330+1000) * 1.5 * attribute 1.7 * 22hits
= 6270 * 33 + 3390 * 22 = 206,910 + 74,580 =2 81,490

1000 p-atk

• steady + AF: (1000 + 2802) * 1.5 * 1.2 = 6843.6

Steady + af
6843.6*33=225,838.8