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Good 2h/1h Dragoon Spear Builds?

It’s just like the title said, does anyone have any good 2 handed and 1 handed Dragoon spear builds that they want to share?

The build is more PVE oriented than PVP and that it does not uses Catagoon.

I was thinking of having it be Sword/Barb/Hop/Dragoon or Sword/Doppel/Hop/Dragoon.

I play using the 2nd one (sword/dopp/hop/drag, it is actually doing fine. I don’t use Dragoon Helmet it is a trap. I don’t just know what Dragon Fear’s Fear debuff actually do, does it exist just for a Dragon Soar synergy?

I’ve been using the first one you mentioned with a decent amount of success since rebuild started for both bossing and pve where you don’t need a taunt (instances and CM).
I’d recommend barbarian over doppel due to the insane amount of attack you can get from high attribute frenzy and warcry that deeds of valor can’t even compare, seism > cleave combo into dragon fear > soar, and pouncing which may not be as good as cyclone, but it helps.

My build if you’re interested, feel free to ask any questions.
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11f64.253555.1c214f51819a75.b55faa6a85.2d8f61713a15

Regarding what Kurth said, go ahead and take the helmet anyways, you’ll want to put it on for bossing, and the lightweight for higher CM stages and the like.
As for dragon fear, it works like all other fears and triggers the same skill interactions, on top of -10% block, evasion, and crit resist; the last one is especially handy.

Option 1:

Option 2:

What do you guys think of these two options for a 2h and 1h Dragoon spear build?

For doppel you might want to just take punish, deeds and cyclone… all other skills require a 2h sword, unless you are ok with auto swap - sometimes if it’s laggy auto swap bugs a bit btw. Punish combos well with spear throw

With those three skills, I would still have 5 points left that I can spent somewhere in Doppel, which other skill would you suggest to take with those 5 points?

You can use double pay earn as well, up to you which skill you like best.

Barb is also good, I had them both.

I really like the risk and rewards benefit that you get from having the Doppel as a class since you can get better loot chance and deal more damage at the expense of taking more damage. As for Barb, the actives from War Cry and Frenzy are also extremely useful. So, its a bit difficult to choose between the two.

Barb>Hoplite

Barb/Doppel/Dragoon

I think i still kinda like Hoplite over using both Barb and Doppel.

Barb is arguably equal to hoplite, but doppel definitely isn’t better than hoplite.
I’m telling you the Barb Hop Dragoon build is straight up better than the other one, I tried it and all sorts of other combinations. Deeds doesn’t even have an enhance attribute like frenzy and warcry, and DPE is a huge waste of points especially without a taunt. There’s much better farming skills and characters out there.

If you’re going to use that skill build you posted, max sharp spear, it’s fixed now and one of the best hoplite skills. You only need one point in spear throw for the dragon fall combo and CC.

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It’s cuz of the synergy between the two classes. Hop complements Dragoon with more Spear skills. I just wanted to have more spear skills to use beside those from the Dragoon Tree.

How about Highlander? It have almost no weapon restriction too :tired:

What Synergy?
Goons best skill is dragon soar thats a slash atack.
Dov Should at least be better then Sharp spear.
And Cyclone has very Strong Aoe.

Cyclones singleTarget dmg should be equal to stabbing.
But its way better since its a skill with huge AOE.

Its not like this is a Lancer Build that has very strong Pierce atacks to make Hop worth it.

Dragon Soar is good but it’s only one skill. Dragoon is only “strong” because it has two defense-ignoring attacks, soar and Dragontooth, one of your strongest attacks when you factor in the spear lunge, a wide and long hitbox, the helmet, low cooldown, defense ignore, and bonus crit damage. It’s your sept etoiles or sturtzhau and it’s better than both, so don’t put one point into it.

Deeds by itself might be stronger than sharp spear (which has easy levels from the zega spear and has an attribute, which deeds doesn’t) but only because it applies only to crits. You know what else hoplite has? Finestra, so you can crit. And stabbing, which is far better than cyclone for single target with spear lunge (you get that too), spear throw for a much better method of setting up dragonfall, and pierce with the dragoon helmet, a very good bossing skill. Of course hoplite has synergy.

Just don’t try and force doppel into a goon build like this, it’s not one circle out of ten any more. If you want to take both barb and doppel then drop dragoon, you’re hurting yourself.

Bs ^^
cyclone =200% Sf per 0,2sec
0,2*5=1k%*3,5=3,5k % you can boost it with cleave too.
And theres some synergy with Frenzy.

Stabbing 173% *15= 2595
Stabbing needs sometime too.

And Still Cyclone has huge AOE and you dont need to aim it like dethrone/tooth.

You excluded spear lunge which is stronger than the cleave debuff by a large margin (50% > 20%), and that stabbing’s damage ramps up over time to 100% by the end, essentially a 50% increase (173 * 15 * 1.5 = 3892).

Single target aside, you are right though, cyclone has a huge aoe. If you want to use doppel in every build just for cyclone go ahead, it’s still a huge waste of a circle if you aren’t using 2h swords or specifically looking to farm mobs and never boss.

it does, the defense decrease is for the spear lunge attack itself

Hoplite

  • Spear Lunge: debuff duration 6 sec. idk how much it increase but, the 50% part is like doppel’s sturtzhau. only affect itself. Single Target

  • Pierce: 304 * 4 (boss) * 5 (overheat) = 6080% SFR. If you take dragoon and equip the helmet, it’s 7600% SFR. Single Target

  • Stabbing :173 * 15 * 1.5 = 3892.5% SFR. Single Target

  • Sharpspear : 20% Critical Damage for 5 mins. Selfbuff

  • Finestra: 30% Critical Rate. 100% Uptime. Selfbuff

Barbarian

  • Cleave : +20% Slash Damage. 100% Uptime. Single target debuff

  • Warcry: -10% Physical defense for 10 seconds. 1 - 25% increase physical damage for 40 seconds with cooldown 30 seconds (100% Uptime). AoE Debuff

  • Seism: 243 * 3(hits) * 2(overheats) = 1458 SFR. AoE

  • Frenzy: +40% Damage, +250 Attack Speed, 100% Uptime. Selfbuff

  • Pounching: 180 * (3.5 / 0.5) * 3(hits. i’ve test it by myself) = 3780 SFR. AoE (but idk it only hits 3-4 monsters)

Doppeltroller

  • Deeds of Valor: +33% damage but +19% damage taken. 100% uptime. self buff

  • Zucken : 124 * 4 * 2 = 992%. Can be spammed with Redel 5 times. 2H Exclusive. AoE

  • Redel : 101 * 5 * 2 = 1010%. Can be spammed with Zucken 5 times. 2H Exclusive. AoE

  • Zwerchhau: 323 * 3 * = 2907%. 2H Exclusive. AoE.

  • Cyclone: 204 * (3.5 / 0.2) : 3570%. If frenzy buff active then 6630%. AoE

  • Zucken + Redel spammed 5 times : 992 + 1010 = 6042%. 2H Exclusive. AoE

Only Hoplite can nearly reach your set up.

Please also check barb and dop set up, you can’t max all skill.