My mistake. I thought you could definitely equip a pistol and still use swash. I stand corrected.
Have fun, guys 'n girls
Thank you sir
Well to be fair it would actually make just as much sense.
Although it would require a diferent animation, having the CorsairC3 shot to the air a few times when using Swash with a Pistol would be pretty sick, by all means itâd make sence as what Swash does animation wise is make noise to attract the aggro.
In my head it made perfect sense, skill description on the other hand⌠
A lilâ tweaking to the description and an animation and we are done.
Dual wield shields or no swag.
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Thatâs what Rodelero should be like.
Well the way I look at Peltasta is this. Are you going to be using a shield later on? Are you uninterested in 2H weapons? Do you absolutely require a taunt? If you answered no to any of these, probably a safe bet to give Peltasta a pass. The reason for this is very simple. Youâre likely going a high DPS class. If youâre going 2H sword, you obviously want to go highlander. If youâre going 1H sword with dagger, youâll get the most benefit just going for Swordsman C2, and for spear users, you could go either way.
Personally my build will be Swordsman > Highlander > Hoplite C2 > Cataphract > Doppelsoldner > Dragoon. You may be asking why I just didnât go Swordsman C2. Well, thatâs a secret. Iâll just tell you this much. At lvl 163, I can currently 1-shot bosses 10 levels higher than me due to some very specific synergy. I am missing out on Finestra Lv15 but tbh, I find Cataphractâs mobility much more important than an extra 50 crit. Also because I am Cataphract I usually ignore any skills not available to mounted players. My only exception being Cyclone because it does a lot of damage andâŚnothing else to get at C1. Just getting the class for Double Pay Earn and Deeds Of Valor. Even with just stabbing I can hit for about 100k (with stabbing enhance only at Lv5 cause Iâm poor lol) so Deeds is VERY important to me.
Since Sword2 offers nothing except a small chance to mini stun and a few extra seconds of Pain Barrier, you actually wonât get the most benefit from it with sword/spear and dagger. Gung Ho will give you a measly +15 attack, and Concentrate will add another 10 hits. Not good enough reasons for me, especially since youâll rarely use those later on when youâll find out that they donât even make a noticeable difference.
Now lets compare to Pelt. Swash Buckling works with sword and dagger, not just shields. Even when solo it saves a lot of time to gather big mobs. Youâll get +25% HP as well, great with Clerics around. Guardianâs 18% evasion will stay relevant all the way up to level 600 as well. Also there are times where itâs just better for you and your party if you quickly weapon swap to a shield and guard.
So the real choices are between Pelt and HL at rank 2. I got nothing against someone going HL, I got one myself. I enjoy the pure 2 hand sword theme. I personally really like Cartar Stroke, especially with it being a rare source of strike damage for swordies. Cross Guard can substitute for Shield Guard and Crown is surprisingly very useful. Critical Attack attribute can use an overhaul though so that it can scale to higher levels like the Pelt attributes.
I wasnât aware that swashbuckling worked with daggers. Doesnât really make any sense but whatever I guess. Then I guess it would all come down to whether you wanna do more pve or pvp. Restrain is a good skill to have in pvp, but seems pointless in pvp. Though anything that increases Pain Barrier is good in my books.
Personally from my experience with swordies, I find that Pain Barrier is one of the most important skills in the entire tree mainly cause Iâm using a high burst build and a knock down would ruin is as my buff do not last long enough to do that. The other buffs are meh. Nice if you have a trident, but useless otherwise. Increased duration on Gung Ho is ok, but at Lv5 it already has 100% up time.
The skill description needs updating but it does make sense; hit 2 weapons together to make noise and draw aggro. Agree with Pain Barrier, I have level 15 myself and itâs a massive difference compared with level 5, but for 5 seconds more plus a 20% chance to mini stun as the main feature of rank 2 is not a good selling point in my book when you look at what the other 2 classes have to offer.
So 20% chance to stun and 5 more seconds is not a good selling pointâŚbut all of a sudden 40% chance to stun and 10 more seconds is a good selling point?
From S2 to S3 you gain 5 more seconds and 20% chance to stun as wellâŚaccording to you that would be not worth it, but for some reason 10 seconds itâs a massive difference.
Definitely agree that Swordsman C3 is just horrible. So many better things you could be at rank 3.
40% is 100% increase from 20% so of course itâs a big difference, both on paper and in practice. This is obvious too but 10 seconds also better than 5 and will provide a short downtime on PB. On top of that you get Double Slash for extra damage. Thereâs a reason why a large amount of PVP builds include S3 and not S2. Thereâs also a reason why there are many players regretting going S2.
It get nice for Shinobis though. I can agree on some level though without going as far as saying horrible from my experience. Letâs just say personally without Shinobi I wouldnât even glance at S3.
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The ones that regret going S2 dont have pelt thats their regret. If you have both there is nothing to regret.
If going from 20% to 40% is a big difference so is going from 0 to 20%. If going from 5 to 10 seconds is a big difference so is going from 0 to 5 seconds.
Why on earth would you go Pelt and S2? At that point what would S2 offer compared to Hop or Barb? As for Restrain, or anything that involves chance for that matter, of course going from 0 to 20% is a big difference, 0 is nothing for crying out loud so just about anything is a big difference from nothing.
Both would be for PvP.
20% > 40% is doubled chance for Restrain. This is very significant with skills like Rush or Cyclone that hits constantly. More Pain Barrier also means more time to cast those skills uninterrupted. In practice, Restrain chance is also lesser than 20/40% (for PvP).
Fact is that in kToS team league, almost all competitive Swordsman have C3. Going Pelt gives a much more balanced build that is very good for PvE - Swag Buckling + Guard. But it loses out significantly in PvP anti-CC and CC potential.
Going pelt gives manual block, 25% block, 25% hp, 18% evasion for PvP.
I can see your reasoning behind that choice but reality is theyâre not good enough reasons until you hit S3, and you definitely donât want S3 + Pelt unless Shinobi. Anyone thatâs serious about PVP has already gone S3. If going Pelt with the aim of some PVP here and there then Barb will already provide a chance to stun and the chance got increased in KToS so if and when it hits here then that just makes S2 even more redundant. You also have more CC with Embowel and Cleave will provide your first real source of damage to help level up at a faster pace.
So for brand new Swordies out there; for the best experience for PVE go Pelt at rank 2. If the thought of Pelt causes you to lose sleep then go Highlander at rank 2. For the best experience for PVP then go Sword3. All the benefits are laid out in this thread so if you still want to disregard them and go Sword2 then by all means go nuts, itâs just my 2 cents anyway.
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