It’s not f2p players, it’s microtransactions players. We all are, lol.
They just ■■■■■■ everything up with this division of community through a paywall.
But let’s say that you’re right. Do you think that the game will survive with ONLY paying players? The moment you take away the f2p players from the community of a f2p game, the game dies.
Problem is that they can’t restart the ranking system, because it takes into consideration the quests that have been done. They need to do a wipe in order to restart the rankings.
And they won’t do a wipe, because paying players want to keep their advantage.
If a closed beta player wanted to keep his character from the closed beta. That’s what you’re doing right now. That’s what you’re LETTING THEM LET YOU do by supporting this cancerous offer.
and the guys who start shietstorming IMC deserve respect? those who contribute nothing but “i hate you IMC i wanna play without paying” deserve to be listened to? nope not in this world mate
then youre one of the few - if you read steam comments carefully people dont care about a late announcement theyre mostly in for the “pay to play” part - and i am pretty sure the op is refering to these people as crybabies- if you feel offended you must have done more than saying “oh imc didn respect us 
how sad i hope we can work this out together”
EA is not a bad decision by them - people who are using steam more often know about the early access stuff - since the greenlight on steam at least i was 95% sure that this game gonna have an early access - would love it if people could confirm same thoughts - tho announcing it shortly before the actual release was kinda meh - people like to be prepared or maybe even discuss whats the best thing to do - also thinking of IMC not only about themselfs - cause ya sure 50% will say “fuk you imc i wont pay shiet this game is bad i want it free as promised” and wont even communicate properly just eagerly cry and bash any solution wich involves money
hahaha childish people likes to exaggerate. They blow small issues into big proportions and beat around the bush, talk in circles. In other words they have not grown up. Show me how “badly”, “evil”, “cashgrab” the company is, just as in court, show me the evidence, show me the law and statute that was broken, show me a case where executives messed up as bad as Enron to ■■■■ the whole world’s economy and created crisis. Show me how “BADLY they messed up”. Maybe try getting a degree first before saying what is good and what is bad.
Sad to see strawberry generation of gamers nowadays, childish community. Spoiled distortion of false entitlements.
Respect the company and respect the game. Play if you like, leave as you wish, no one cares, but do not spoil it for others.
Those doomsayers saying that this game is dead and all, the server will be destroyed and ■■■■, all that hypothetical scenario are a bunch of joke. Come june all of them will come back and play shamelessly. Some of them will even pay for founders pack despite saying otherwise, and raging hating on forums and steam for god knows why.
But we have an even bigger problem due to all the rage nonsense, even the founders pack will be delayed now until further notice fhanks to these people. You ruined the continued hype for people looking forward to play even though they had to pay. These people had greater passion and support for the game than naysayers and rage crazies but you people ruined it for them with your endless whining. Thanks
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It’s not f2p players, it’s microtransactions players. We all are, lol.
They just ■■■■■■ everything up with this division of community through a paywall.
But let’s say that you’re right. Do you think that the game will survive with ONLY paying players? The moment you take away the f2p players from the community of a f2p game, the game dies.
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I can not resist to answering it … because I already told you the game will remain “F2P” the only difference is the “early access”
You do realize most of these people you are arguing with are:
Like what you said, Come june all of them will come back and play shamelessly. Some of them will even pay for founders pack despite saying otherwise, and raging hating on forums and steam for god knows why.
You need to learn to read and understand English completely, sorry.
It was a hypothetical statement, or a “what if” statement, because he was suggesting that f2p players are useless and that they serve no purpose at all.
That only money matters. But if there’s no us, there’s no you, then there’s no community, then there’s no game.
If f2p players realize and accept that the game is p2w (and it is, mainly because of the ranking) they will slowly start leaving the game.
Why? Because they can never catch up, you’re always ahead in levels, thus always ahead in the ranking. Unless you stop playing for a year, and they catch up then, but expecting that is just ridiculous.
Everyone wants to be on top, so you’ll keep playing and we’ll keep trying to catch up, but we can never do catch up, unless it’s the level cap.
But when you reach level cap, we still won’t. While we are working on that, you’ll be doing side quests that you missed or whatever else that gives you points, making an even bigger gap.
We simply can’t compete on the ladder, because of this deal.
1- yes i rly need to learn more english, i still do what i can
2- as i say before, there is alwasys going to be a way to catch up with the others
3- i still wait for the image… im serius about this :C
4- try to reach an agreement soon I will not be much longer, as you know I am not from the United States, I am from Argentina
Nope, there’s no catching up. Dedicated p2p player will never let a new coming f2p player catch up, it is not possible.
He will not stop playing, because he’s dedicated to the game and you can try all you want, but every time you get 100 points, he also gets 100 points (maybe even more, because he’s higher level and can do maybe more rewarding things)
The gap will never close, until that paying player stops playing the game altogether.
Can I ask why does this matter. OK let’s say you do catch up…now what?
You’re the top player then. That’s all that matters for some players, lol.
Stupid question. It’s like asking why do you play ranked matches in MOBA games. There is no point other than climbing as high as you can in hopes of one day being on top.
but I still think that if that were the case the players who are not on the first day, are doomed also
and I do not mean having “founder pack” I mean later in the game when he is in “F2P” for 4 months or 1 year or more
those players would suffer also, and this problem is something that can not be fixed as easily as you want, people will have to be filled with determination and make a great effort if they seriously want to overcome the others
That’s not the same tho moba are meant to be competitive. This is an rpg there isn’t a top because it isn’t meant to be competitive. Get what I’m trying to say.
The problem is that those new players that come in a year from now HAD AN OPTION to play from the first day (if there was no founders).
Currently, we don’t have the options, because of the founders.
I’m pretty confused. Are you agreeing with me, or disagreeing? I’m going to be nice and assume the former rather than the latter, because only an idiot would agree with IMC on this.
p.s. your second post is quoting me, but doesn’t quote my text. The response makes more sense for my text than it does the original text, but that might be a coincidence. Please check it again.
If there’s a ranking system, there’s a top spot. Weather you like it or not, this matters to a lot of players and for them, it IS competitive.
You’re only talking from your perspective, because it doesn’t matter to you.
I’m talking by considering every perspective that I can think of.
Alright not a problem not trying to argue just trying to ease the pain. And I guess your right about that for people who are extremely competitive. And competeing actually does matter to me I play fighting games all the time. Usally it’s about winING my matches not so much being on top.
what I mean is this argument that you presented is against “rank sistem” not against “founder pack”
what I mean is: you don’t know what youre talking about
I will not continue to respond to these arguments that have nothing to do with the matter in question, im not sorry.
I’m sorry that you can’t understand the whole thing on a deeper level. I sadly can’t think for you.
read again srly is “Rank Sistem” not the “Founder Pack”