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FPS Issues? Read Here! (CPU vs GPU)

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#1

I have a Radeon R9 390X which is about a $500.00 card and I still get major FPS issues at times and I can let you all know it’s nothing to do with your video card. I had to send my card back for warranty due to some artifacts I was getting in Dark Souls 3 which was due to hardware problems… anyway so while it’s sent out I’ve been using a Geforce 250 and I get almost the exact same FPS, yes it is slightly lower at times but nothing massive.

Upon further inspection I found that the game isn’t even using most of your GPU processing and instead is almost completely reliant on your CPU. Now I have a fairly high end i5 and since this game doesn’t use multiple cores you are bound to have issues.

To further test this I applied some processing usage to different cores and checked how it effected my performance and what I found is putting a slight load on my CPU while playing and in Klai I would lose a lot of FPS. I moved that process exclusively to a different core and now there was no impact at all.

I’ll test further when I get my card back, but I can tell most of you now, if you are having FPS issues and you have a moderately decent card don’t go out updating it expecting a huge difference, instead if you CPU is a little bit older maybe upgrade that if you really care… even then you will likely not see any major increase due to the fact that the game is just poorly optimized ATM.

Now I’m not saying your GPU will have have no effect on the FPS it certainly will to an extent and especially if you’re using something like a onboard Intel 4000 HD or something, this is why I said if you have a moderately good card you won’t see much of a difference.

There are some tweaks out there you can do to the user.xml file (your config file essentially) that will help out some people with lower end systems and I suggest you look into those. There are a few on Reddit that I used on my laptop which is not a gaming machine and used for work and school. I saw some increase but nothing too dramatic.

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#2

Tl;dr perf still sucks?

#3

You wrote this wall of text to explain what everyone already knows? It is no news that the game is nowhere near good in performance, CPU and GPU wise, no 64 bits CPU support cause even more stuttering, GPU seem to be capped somewhere that don’t let the modern GPUs work as it should.

Those “band aid” they added on last patch is more like this:

An used band aid.

So until they do a heavy overhaul on these areas, we will have to deal with FPS drops, and believe me, when F2P hit this will turn in hell.

#4

Going by the game developer’s track record, I imagine the chance of them fixing this game is 0% even if they tried. However, there is always a 100% chance of a 24hour maintenance to look forward to.

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#5

Well, it would be common sense to fix first the lag and performance before anything else, i think their focus now would be that, but if not, as i said above, in 6 days hell will break loose, unless they say that the F2P will be postponed again, which i doubt they would do, and even if they do hell will break loose same way lol.

It will be a shame tho, not be able to play because the server is crashing due to heavy load, it is like our Stress Test last year was just for show. If it wasn’t just for show.

#6

Wall of text would be if I didn’t separate anything and it was all one massive paragraph.

Also claiming “everyone” already knows something is an anecdotal fallacy and has no merit. I’m sure there are many people that don’t know this.

#7

It’s a Korean thing. ToS isn’t the only Korean Grindan MMO that only uses a single CPU core and mostly ignores the GPU.

#8

If you don’t see the amount of posts about FPS drop, the answers on them, and even old posts by doing search (in the forum, don’t need to use google), i can’t do nothing about lazy or w/e you want to call the attitude.

And as i said on other posts (the really negative ones), buying access to a game that is not complete without research about the game’s actual state is a waste of money, unless you don’t mind problems popping up all the time, then there is nothing left to say.

Repeating what has already been said over and over won’t fix the problems, if IMC will fix them faster or no only they can decide, but on performance, with the actual server crashes right before the F2P date, i doubt they will do something.

#9

It’s not entirely the CPU.

I have ultra crap teir i3, 4th gen and locked, and ToS only absorbs about 20-30% of the CPU power, however, look at the netcode. It’s all TCP connections.

You get spammed with a flood of packets that aren’t handled correctly and that is what really causes most of the lag.

Yes, the CPU does play a role but not as big as the netcode that is poorly structured.

I get 30-40 FPS in empty fields, and about 15 ish fps in cities, and that is with my really crappy CPU. But guild war? World boss? Haha.

#10

I wasn’t complaining at all… I was making an informative post not a complaining post. Mainly encouraging people to not waste money upgrading their video cards thinking it will make a huge difference. I don’t see how it personally caused you any harm or inconvenience you just seem like someone with a chip on their shoulder trying to be an internet tough guy.

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#11

True, I’m mainly meaning (as stated just above) not to run out and buy a $500.00 video card thinking its going to solve the problems. That’s why I also said that game is poorly optimized (netcode included)

#12

I see, but i don’t see any necessity that we need to waste money on that, the developer already stated the minimum requirement to be able to play, and many are even able to play with built-in GPUs (mostly Intel users).

The last thing i will be harmed is from something on internet, you can think w/e you want about me, tbh, i am one of the people who try to help, in the techincal part at least, the best i can.
If i do look tough to you its on your eyes, not mine and i am sure not on who really know me.

Well, in the end, obvious stuff is obvious.
I will remove myself from your thread.
Good luck there.

#13

I don’t think you’re understanding what I’m saying. How am I encouraging people to waste money? I’m saying the opposite… I think this is a lost in translation type of thing.

#14

I’m using an i7 6700k CPU and have never seen my FPS drop below 55 in crowded towns. I haven’t really changed anything on the CPU. I’m not sure why my PC is handling the FPS issues so well in comparison to what others are dealing with.

#15

If its cpu heavy and only uses one core, that explains it for me. 8 core FX 8350… single core performance isn’t great.

Most games only use one core though i hear. I can play fallout 4 just fine…

#16

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dont bother upgrade anything, even with this rig FPS spikes still happen

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#17

so… its a korean thing to be a crappy developer :sweat_smile:

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#18

Rank 4 in the single thread performance chart
No wonder you’re having no problems lel

#19

There was quite a few topics already explaining and demonstrating this, with screenshots and everything.
For example:

#20

Title is obvious misleading clickbait. Thread should be deleted.