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For those who like Sadhu

Why do you like the class? Just changed to test some builds but I don’t the appeal.

My build right now is C2>Bokor1>Sadhu3>PD2, the most popular sadhu build acording to their ranks.

What’s your main rotation on builds like this?

Possession is a great skill, but the damage is not that special

OoB is not like how it was in Beta, ABExplosion damage is a interesting skill but meh…

Transmit Prana, to be honest I don’t really understand this skill, all I know is that gives you some damage buff.

I want to get the most out of this reset event and ever since they nerfed OoB attack speed, sadhu is one of the classes that I don’t get it

What does sadhu bring to a party that other classes don’t?

PS:I’m rank 8 lvl15, so I have all skill points for a build test

this is not sadhu build, this is PD build, sadhu need only for extra damage from transmit prana and nothing more

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I’m playing a C3 > Sadhu 3 > PD 1 (still not rank 8) and I’ve been having a blast with it.

If I don’t have to focus on support, I turn heal dmg on and my main rotation is buffing up (Divine Might, Prana), then going to the boss and laying down Safety Zone, Cure and the Heal overheats. Then I OoB and ABE the boss. While the boss has the ABE DoT, I incinerate it and then cast possession. By that time, my first cooldowns are almost over, so I OoB AA for a few seconds and repeat it. The damage is honestly quite high.

If I have to support, I focus on getting the heals to the party then do a similar rotation without the heal overheats.

So, is the main point of this build is to transmit, smoke and burn the enemy?

Possession is a really good CC skill with damage
Astral Body Explosion does a very good damage and knocks people down, even if they are inside safety zone.

I’m Sadhu 2 only btw.

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Have you tried C2>Priest3>Chap>PD2 or C2>Priest3>Chap>Miko/Inq?

I feel like if you want damage this build provide a lot more than the sadhu version.

@Anarth

Oh i know, it’s just other classes have a smaller AoE but you don’t need to channel it.

I also would like to ask here, is transmit prana to yourself confirmed to intentional or not? If not, isn’t making a build around a glitch asking to get disappointed later on?

I’m trying to like this build because the other one (c2p3chap’X’Inq) might not scale properly later on while Sadhu/PD2 has scaling potential, but if the main point of the build which is transmitting prana to yourself gets “fixed” it might not be worth it.

The 150% buff to psychokinesis is intentional. Being able to transmit int to yourself by cancelling the animation is probably a bug.

It’s basically that Sadhu 2 was able to give both magic damage and CC on a build that is mostly support/healer, I dont think other classes would provide me as much as Sadhu 2 for Rank 5 and 6.

I have Cleric 3 , Oracle and Kabbalist in the same build.

never seen pd in 290 dungeon? one spell - half room dead, ~150k over 15sec

I did try C2 > Priest 3 > Chap > PD1 and while I did like it quite a bit, I did not find the damage particularly higher or lower than Sadhu. I did miss my extra Heal tiles on this build though, which is what made me settle for my current. Mind you, my cleric is still Rank 7 so my impressions may be different because of that.

Yeah, but that PD not sadhu, while Prana have a better scaling, SPR blessing will give much more dps to the whole party

healing factor - you almost immortal

Yeah my mistake, sadhu actually has more damage than a SPR build because of better in scaling on all skill

I have two Sadhus, one C3>Diev>Sadhu2>Kabba2 and
one C3>Diev>Sadhu3>Taoist. While Sadhu C3 sure is a little better damage,
Sadhu C2 is ± enough to get you the goodies you need, Possession and Praktiris healing attribute.

OOB is really bad currently, the autoattacks don’t have any decent damage even with level 50+ attribute unless you got a really really good weapon.
It will get a little better when we get the patch where Transmit Prana affects OOB damage and DEX affects OOBs Aspd, but until then it’s not even decent, better autoattack with your mace to deal better damage…

Still, I like Sadhu mainly because of the free Healing via Praktiri and Possession to keep the mobs in check (for at least 6,5 seconds -> 9,5 seconds downtime with Laima)& deal acceptable damage for acceptable attribute upgrade prices.

With my Catacombs Club I can reach up to 120k with my level 6 Possession, so it’s decent enough once I get my Vienarazis Mace for a damaging skill. Level 11 Possession with the same weapon + Transmit Prana on my other Sadhu ticks for a bit more, ~ 140k [has less attribute on Possession xD].

For an AoE skill with a short CD time the skill is simply worth 2-3 ranks, and Telekinesis/Soul element has no element that is resistant against it.

Now only OOB needs to be good enough to be worth the investment of time& skillpoints into the hiding skills Fade/Dark Sight and everything is perfect :slight_smile:

I made some TP tests at lvl 323, against lvl 327 monsters using a +7 Pevordimas Rod and average gear.
Cleric C2>Diev C1>Sadhu C3>Plague Doctor C2:

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I was not using any other buff. Damage can be further increased with Pardoner Sacrament + Blessing buff, or against some weak monsters. My Possession can hit up to 11k per tick on the right monsters, and ABE I have already seen 55k on explosion.

Overall it’s an insane aoe dps build for solo cleric and open world group, but of course it’s less supportive than other classes if you intend to do Earth Tower.

Also, the only combo I make is Laima + Divine Might + Transmit Prana for a 60sec buff with 65sec cooldown.

I’m now a Sadhu main, although my build differs from the meta PD2 sadhu builds, here are my thoughts on the class. My main build is C2>Diev1>Sadhu3>Miko>Taoist.

C2 Bokor1 Sadhu3 PD2 is more of a dps centric, soloist build. The priest variant will be better if you want good support for party play too.

Just like what @siderit99 said, the SadhuPD2 build is built in a way to get maximum damage out of PD’s Vapor-Incinerate. The build screams more of PD rather than Sadhu. Sadhu is just a damage buffer in the build, which is why you feel that the class offers nothing more than just damage buffs.

For PD2s, there isn’t really much rotation needed for sadhu to shine though. At high transcend levels + enchancements, just Vapor, Hex + a full screen Pandemic will often do the job, add in a couple of effigies if they didn’t die.

Which is why I build my main as Diev1 Miko Taoist instead, it capitalise on what Sadhu is capable of and makes the build feel like it is Sadhu. :3

So on to the skills and what is brings to the party.

Transmit Prana transmits 60% of our stats to another party member. Currently there is a bug in which we can cast it on ourselves and get an extra 60% of our own stats. Unlike priest’s blessing which target party wide, sadhu’s TP only can target 1 player.

As the balance patch kicks in, skills that previously will lock monsters in place such as hamaya, frost cloud, fire pillar, retreat shot etc (due to position desync) no longer ‘soft cc’ the mobs. This is where Sadhu’s possession comes in. Possession is an aoe which roots monsters in place. This helps quite a bit in party play where the party wants the monsters to stay at 1 location while the other dpsers do their job.

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Just like what @siderit99 said, the SadhuPD2 build is built in a way to get maximum damage out of PD’s Vapor-Incinerate. The build screams more of PD rather than Sadhu. Sadhu is just a damage buffer in the build, which is why you feel that the class offers nothing more than just damage buffs.

I wouldn’t say that. While yes, TP makes vapor and incinerate damage rise substantially and those are two of your best skills, possession (and all your other skills that get boosted by TP) are just as important. PD 2 gameplay is high cooldown and posession with ABE are just about the best skills to fill in the gap, not to mention they can become absurdly strong because TP gives you better scaling on everything you cast the stronger you are. I am fairly certain that PD can utilize sadhu to its fullest potential excluding using out of body itself as a dps source which becomes unneeded due to your already high skill damage potential (and to be honest it would be unneeded either way due to its low damage output to begin with).

If you are only considering dailies and farming, then definitely just vapors is enough for the most part. However, the more challenging enemies you face the more important sadhu becomes for a PD build. I am using a Cleric 2 Diev 1 Sadhu 3 PD 2 and in clearing 40F a large part of our DPS comes from ice tree into Posession with TP and chapparition proc to double down on its burst as vapors/incinerate also tic all over the place. This build can easily compete with the usual wiz 3 ele 3 warlock 2 in terms of being an aoe magic DPS to the point that your party does not even care to expect any support from you because you are simply one of the DPS.

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Im using the same build c2 diev sadhu3 pd2. Can confirm damage is good. Now we just need out of body to work with blessing and prana

afaik Transmit Prana works with OOB on kTest (?), but I’m happy that Blessing doesnt work with OOB.

It’s a good thing, because you can use OOB autoattacks for damage without consuming your Blessing counts and use the Blessing damageboost for your Heals/Cures/Possessions instead.

If you’re geared properly, the damage could possibly skyrocket [129% x 1,4 {attribute} + 50% TP{element boost} + (0,68 x min matk x 1,5 {bonus TP damage})] as an autoattack can reach ~ 330% of your matk. Imagine you got 4-5k matk, that’s around 13,2k - 16,5k damage per attack; Since OOB autoattacks are affected by ASPD on kTest, with 200-300 DEX to reach medium pingcap ASPD, your Sadhu can wreck havoc like no tomorrow xD

After all this calculations, it makes me want my Sadhu C3 back on my main, but sadly I can’t yet; gotta wait till Rank 10 to make it happen :frowning: