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Fletcher3 + rouge?

hallo, archer piqued my interest since ive already made a previous one A3-S3-Falc1-Merge1

im planning to make another archer

can you guys comment on this skill build?

im planning on 30-40 con no str ,full dex Fletcher3+Rouge

i plan to grab MA skill with capture and well, DOUBLE MA!!!,
i personally dont like archer R8 classes without other synergy like if i take Merge without falcon circling, merge damage feels dull…

i googled several times about fletcher + rouge combination but nothing pops up,
so as a guy who just spams split arrow, can you guys tell me if double MA is good? i know MA already has very low cooldown, but i cant think of any other class to maximize fletchers full potential.
i really dont care if i have little AoE as long i can play what i want :smiley:

p.s pure pve, i dont pvp

Still better than one MA per 3 minutes lmao
This feels like good old troll public build from rugal or something. Do I really need to explain what’s bad about it or is it bait?

pls do explain, idk any other archer skills aside from what i previously made (A3S3F1M1)
does captured skill have long cooldown?
or rather, aside from r8 classes, what other classes have good synergy with fletcher3?

Yes, it has cd of 3 minutes.
Ok here we go.

Overall
This build has no damage. You intend to rely on twin arrows all the time which is decent skill for rank 3 but not really that great on r8.

Archer
You might want to get 1 point in heavy shot to knockback enemies (not really, never used it). Not sure if extra 150 damage on twin arrow lv5 worth the sp consumption compared to lv1. Everything else is fine (but I would rather replace archer3 with a circle of ranger, not that crucial though).

Ranger
If you decide to pick ranger go for barrage and steady aim, everything else is irrelevant.

Scout
You might want 1 point in Flu Flu. It’s good for aggroing mobs.

Fletcher
Why put 15 points in bodkin? Nobody does that. That’s so much points you can spend on skills with actual damage. And you don’t normally suffer from mob’s defense. Also missile attacks inflict invisible debuff on a target which lowers it’s defense (10% per stack, up to 5 stacks) anyway.
Put 1 point in barbed arrow, it hits cloth-type monsters 3 times and leather-type 2 times.
Makes sense to max crossfire. It’s aoe with 150% damage (not applied to the targetted mob, but to the mobs near it) when maxed. SP consumption is heavy but will boost your damage noticeably.
DMA is bad. Nothing else to say.

Mergen provides best dps burst in entire archer tree. You don’t need rogue in a dex build with archer2-3.

The build is so bad it does look like a bait topic.

If the OP is actually being serious though, capture has a 47 hour cooldown in-game, its about useless outside of having a nice extra burst for a boss.

Archer circle 3 with fletcher is also useless, you really need twin arrows at the cost of an entire circle?

Did you forget rank 8 classes exist, I mean seriosuly, this is why so many people are carrys in this game, everyone has to be the next Chip Kelly of ToS. Dont try to be a special snowflake, use a build that works, ToS may boast “167,890,327 possible job combinations” but they dont mention that only about 14 are usefull.

alright, thanks for the unbias reply
@jabo_nogaems
i read it in another topic that Cross fire is bad that its better to leave it at 1 or 0, i havent really tried it yet because well, i dont have a fletcher before. also, damage wise, is DMA really that bad? (ill do more research)
btw im planning on full dex no str, so i thought that no str and taking ranger would be unwise since steady aim increases atk by %%, well now that i think about it, trans weapons give a load of damage so ill considered taking ranger instead. btw i just put 15 on bodkin for the lol, this is just a test skill build, i only emphasize the max MA and the broadhead(which i think ill be spamming all the time)
one more thing , does mergen’s 2nd and 3rd skill worth better if i have good aoe attack ratio equipment?

@jchsc32
im actually being serious tho, sorry if it seems like a troll topic to you old players :confused:
i didnt know that capture was that bad, i thought that capturing MA would make me spam 2 MA every 5 seconds,
i went for A3 because of lvl15 multishot
i know r8 classes exist but i said “I personally dont like R8 classes” -.- how can you miss that, thats why im here in the forum asking for suggestions about a BUILD THAT WORKS.
i also noticed how there are soo many possible job combinations in the tosbase website but its like, just a copy and paste from others…well if its meta its meta.

I never played fletcher or mergen, those are obvious things everybody knows
2nd skill yes. 3rd is good even w/o aoe ratio gear. Honestly I think all of mergen’s skills are good except for Parthian Shaft.

If it’s tosbase normally it’s not meta but people who never played the game publishing dumb ■■■■

your fine

if you want a flecther @nicola lays out the best current build for it and breaks down what you need to know

if you want a scout there are the idreamy (a2-rang1-sc3-rogue1-merg1) and a3-sc3-falcon1-merg1 variants, or the KR pure field farmer thats just SR1 instead of falc1

if you want an SR they are all the same, you just pick rng3 or qs3 for the base

if you want a hunter seek professional counseling

etc etc

yeah, his/her build (best of both worlds) made me curious as to how fletcher works, super burst aoe. sad to say my idea of 2MA every 5second spam isnot going to happen :frowning:

Rogue has no place atm.
Ask yourself if you want to focus on AoE or Single Target.

Make Sapper-Wugu-Mergen :D!

Disagree here. Barbed arrow is pretty damn strong.

It’s pretty strong with 1 point invested, so?

No, I’m saying more points should be added than 1, it’s one of the stronger skills for fletcher. Broadhead falls off quite a bit at later levels.

no, you put 1 point in bodkin. I think you got the name confused between Bodkin and Barb. Barb is amazing.

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No I am in no way confused. For spammable skills you want to keep sp consumption low. Unlike barbed arrow crossfire scales well with points and that’s why I recommend investing in it over barbed. Also lv1 crossfire is considered bad (to the point a lot of players don’t use it at all because they never tried to level it past l1).

Confused why you’re arguing here… crossfire is garbage as well, so there’s that.

As far as sp consumption, you get SP pots or gear for SP recovery. Sp drain is part of the life of fletcher… it’s gonna happen.

crossfire is really bad…

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#Makes sense to max crossfire.

Just… wow.


This isn’t a Scout 3 farmer build though. What self respecting Fletcher3 doesn’t carry Lv15 SP Pots this day and age?

From the moment I used @nicola’s build, I have not once ran out of SP.

Lv 00 Crossfire <— you should feel bad
Lv 15 Broadhead <— 1st skill I throw if not in Cloaking
Lv 05 Divine Machine Arrow <— 2nd skill I throw if not in Cloaking
Lv 10 Magic Arrow <-- cast and recast again and again
Lv 01 Bodkin Point <-- used to remove shield(s), never used outside of that
Lv 14 Barbed Arrow <-- 79 SP cost is nothing to write home about

Include Mergen skills: Triple Arrow, Arrow Sprinkle and Homing Arrow on top of that and not once have I encountered this “SP crisis” you were trying to avert.

PS: I also have an Ar3-Sc3-Fal that never has issues with it’s Lv5 Split Arrow… Lv15 SP pots too OP.

i got a question.
does AoE Attack ratio apply to mergen skills?
if so, what skills?
i noticed arrow shower or sprinkle not hitting most of its shots, so if i have like 5-6 aoe ratio, will the mob or boss eat all of its damage? :v:
(posted this question too in the best of both world topic)

homing arrow, triple arrow, and parthian shaft profit from aoe ratio.

arrow shower doesnt.