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Finally IMC is taking action against Dina afkers, Good Job!

well, i guess reaper will spawn everywhere now when ppl farming for item, gear, silver bla3… ahahaha

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By your logic we probably shouldn’t be punishing bots/rmt/hook’ers/etc. cause they really just want to play too?

Afk farmers are just as detrimental to the player base as them.

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Well, you asked for Reapers, there they are :smiley:

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Check Goddess Ancient Garden. I bet the bots there are either dead or gone. I hope the Uosis price and potion price goes down :joy: my pocket can’t take it anymore.

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It will only go up without bot supply…

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AFk farm,are very different than bots/rmt/hook’ers. I total agree with to punish those who use rmt/(soviet) hook’ers/bots.

Lastly can you not just quotes two words from a whole sentence? Is really easily to take thing out of context.

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The damage it causes is still very similar and it’s obviously only done due to greed. General view on it is also very similarly negative and unaccepting even if it’s possible by legitimate means. I call double standards on people who accept it and not the others. :confused:

Sure, I mean they can just press the arrow and see the whole thing tho. Intention was never to twist your words I was just being lazy with quoting on phone.

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No problem.

I agree from what you said. But from my point of view, I wasn’t judging those afker’s moral value. I was judging them base on whether they used 3rd party software or not. They found one of the many flaws in the game and took advantage within the rule book. Are they being a douche bag? Yes they are but they didn’t break any rule as far as I know.

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Really though the silver gained from Dina bee farm is about 100k silver/hr.
With 5 channels and about 6 necros to fully saturate it at that silver rate. You get 30 necros in total at 100k silver/hr. That’s only 3 million silver/hr and assuming dina bee farm is fully saturated 24/7 by different sets of necros that’s only 3*24 = 72 million silver/ day ( A conservative estimate as dina bee farm is not saturate 24/7)

Dungeon rush compared to dina bee farm map is non-saturatable since it is only limited by the number of characters.
Per day say in klaipeda there is about a conservative estimate of 800 players with High level characters. On average each of those players have about 3 characters at lvl 290+ per player.
Per day you earn 400k for doing the rushes per character
that’s 400k * 3 characters * 800 players = 960 million silver/ day

You are over-estimating the amount earned in dina bee farm basically.
Seriously though instead of being jealous nad smithing necros, just create a necro as well. A saturation point will be made at which no necro would wish to park anymore due to how many there are and p0rofits dwindle.
Let me reiterate.
FARM silver is LIMITED by Channels no mather how many necros there are.
RUSH silver is unlimited, limited only by amount of Characters.

Limiting player choice is bad for the health of the game. I’ve been harping at this for a long time. Happy players play the game longer. Buy tp more and over all is good for the game.

Witch hunting a scapegoat is not the way to do things.
Cutting off a minority of playerbase from doing the things they want to do THAT does not affect other people’s potential to do the thing as well is bad.

Give more players a place to ACTIVE FARM more that gives better silver/hr than Dina bee farm for all I care.
The important thing is that afk farm msut be an OPTION for the game.
ACTIVE FARMING Maps = 300k/hr as an example.

The numbers can be tweaked. Just don’t limit player choice.

P.S. As a final word. What is the fair price/rate for a necro farmer? That is the question

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Found the afk necro.

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This is why I find this change great, if it keeps up and doesn’t disrupt normal gameplay. I mean they’re not banning them or anything just making it harder to abuse the system.

Am I tho? I didn’t give any estimate. I said it’s similar I didn’t say it’s the same. :slight_smile:

Why would I? I don’t care about silver I’m not jealous and I don’t want to contribute into something that I don’t like.

I would argue that the existence of afk necros make more players quit and have caused more players to quit than stay. THIS is my main problem with it. I don’t mainly like it cause it damages the playerbase.

But it affects the fun of more players playing the game. :confused:

I simply disagree with you, I believe the game would do better completely without it.

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It’s been months in Fedimian that the Grim Reaper spawns at a given interval, it didn’t cut out AFK necros, but still a bit, and some players got used to this spawn schedule and move around/disconnect until the boss disappears.

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Like they say, we will bitch about anything :smile:

Fixing the Dina problem on week one instead of allowing them months and months to farm silver would be better. Instead they allow only ITOS to afk farm while they issue bans on other servers, So u can imagine why the ITOS community is salty about everything, different standards in management, the damage is already done.

And they still didn’t ban any afk farmer, WHY? Get those silver stockpiles out of the game!

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Because people don’t rage/flame/troll as hard in ktos/jtos. People handle rage better than here, where everything erupts into a shitstorm the moment something happens.

Blaming the community as a justification for the long delay in fixing problems? That’s a new one…

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Thank god, good riddance.

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Yes, possibly true. they know there will be community backlash if they do it, so they are refraining themselves from doing so.

Edit: In case you forgot how much ruckus was kicked up when people were temporary banned for abusing cube reopening times.

Why do people want them banned. IMC themselves has said AFK farming is a valid game mechanic.

They can’t ban someone retroactively for something they’ve deemed legal.

Or ban someone just for having a lot of money.

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