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Fencer. Small advice needed

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

Hello there folks~!

I’ve got my own idea of a build for a DPS fencer. I’ll probably focus on PvE and maybe take a bite on PvP later on too. The thing is… I’m not sure which class to take as a second.

Swordsman C1 -> ? -> Barbarian C3 -> Fencer C2

I am not sure if it would be better to go with swordsman C2 or with Highlander. One would give me better buffs and the other has this realy nice damage skill Catar Stroke, also gives me abbility to vield 2h swords early. What do you guys think? Oh and also… I’m not sure about Stats too. I was thinking about going more Str than Dex with some Con point from time to time (up to like… 40-70 con maybe? Or less?)

Give me your thoughts on it :slight_smile:

#2

Peltasta. Seriously. It makes me mad when I’m in a party of 4 swordsman class and NONE has swashbuckle.

I become the healer, taunter, and tanker.

They dont pay me extra :<

#3

The thing is… I’m a realy bad tank x3 I was always a bad tank in every game :c Also… Fencer would make a good tank?

#4

Peltasta.
Guardian Attribute, looking at this beast alone you would know why you’d pick peltasta other than swash.

Focus more on dex than str, you’ll be able to be a physical tank later in the game. There are several more fencer threads here you could check for detailed info, I’ve explained there too.

#5

But it seems like to be a good tank later on I would need a lot more Dex and Con than Str. That would put down my abbility to deal damage, since it’s the role I take in most games. Also I can’t dodge magic attacks, can I? Maybe being an off-tank if the situation would be dire, but in any other case I don’t see building fencer as a tank. Also I’m not exacly a person who enjoys gameplay style of tanks

#6

If you’re more into dps don’t take fencer, take doppel or dragoon instead.

You can deal damage, but if you look closely fencer skills aren’t just all damage, and have secondary effects on their skills. Flanconnade, Lunge, Coquille. I’m sure you’ll probably regret taking fencer later on if you mainly want to deal damage.

I don’t want you to end up like other fencers who are ignored because they cant tank and can also barely deal damage(look at AOE attack ratio on fencer skills).

And yes, magic cannot be avoid, but with enough con~ 75-100 and enough gear you should be able to handle them with support.

#7

Hmm… S1 > P1 > Barb3 > F2 would be good then? Barb gives some good aoe I think and some CC, while Fencer is more single target and evasion, yes?

#8

yeah, currently with vubbe fighter gauntlets I could only hit 3 medium targets with fencer skills and that’s…bad. when I use aoe attack ratio potion, I could hit 4 with them.

Don’t worry too much about losing damage, it’s nothing too big because taking dex also increases your critical rate and you won’t be ignoring str totally anyway.

#9

Mrhm. Well… I’m sure I would be better with dps if I went dopel or Dragoon, but… Fencer fits my style of gameplay. Hmm… And what about changing barb to highlander c3?

#10

That’s not bad but most of highlander skills have smaller ratio compared to Barb, you will have Coquille>Crosscut>Lunge>skyliner x3 combo but you will lose out on warcry and huge seism aoe.

If you really look into the skills carefully fencers do damage while protecting themselves at the same time, of course at the cost of something, which is damage. If that’s your playstyle go ahead, just do not expect as much damage.

#11

Okey. I decided to go Pelt C1 > Barb C3 and then Fencer C2. Thanks for advice. And… yeah… I would probably be useless later on if I would not be able to even off-tank anything and would do a lot less dmg than others. So the swordsman route is decided! No I’ll have to take a look at monk too (playing with friend as cleric right now and swordsman for solo leveling when he’s not online).
Thanks again!

#12

Hmm… I wanted to ask one more thing (leveling is doing good, I’m at barb c1 right now, level 57). And the thing is about stats - I think as a fencer with dodge I need to go more into DEX and I’ve decided for something like this

I didn’t include any additional points, couse I don’t know how many of them I’ll get. Is it good, or should I change something?

#13

Don’t put spr, and as long as you get about 100 total con you are fine

#14

Why not SPR? From what I heard/saw Fencer relies heavily on skills, not autoattacks. This additional spr would help I think

#15

Use kranto bracelets, you will regret putting spr, you will run out of sp anyway no matter how much spr you put in, a 20-30 second bonfire break will fill up all your sp while soloing as fencer

#16

Heh, I’ve already put some points into it. Ehc, doesn’t matter I’ll leave it as it is right now. Also I just thought of something - is skill Warcry from Barbarian worth taking? Or maybe put points into Helm Chopper instead? This is the last question, realy x3

#17

Since I only took Barb 2 I did not take Frenzy, so my skills on barb are
10 Helm Chopper
10 Cleave
5 Seism
5 Warcry

It’s worth taking helm chopper if you need strike damage, coquille isn’t enough

#18

edit isn’t working so I had to double post, here’s what my stats look like to give you an idea, spr is from venier, and here’s a kranto bracelet, I have two but I don’t really use them because in the end I’ll run out of sp too, so spr is really a waste, but if you have not put in that much then I guess you are still safe

(stats w/out max peta and gladiator band)

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#19

Mrhm. I have 15 or 16 points in SPR and I’ll just leave it like it is - I don’t want to reroll becouse of one stupid thing, and maybe they will implement stat reset potion later on, or something.

As for stats… Right now I’m something like 43/15/2/16/40 (not in game atm, so can’t check for sure). And I kinda feel the lack of dmg sometimes while leveling x3. Hp is enough for now, I’ll pump more into it later.

On Barb I was planning on going something like:
Cleave 15
Seism 10
Frenzy 10
Helm Chopper 10 // Helm Chopper 9 and Warcry 1 // Helm Chopper 1 and Warcry 9

#20

Cleave 14
Seism 10
Frenzy 10
Helm Chopper 1
Warcry 10

would be better, warcry is a short boost but during the uptime it does give a lot.