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Falc3 - Ping rate apart, is it really better with full dex?

Hey guys

I playing now with a falc3 and thinking about my stats allocation.
I was wondering if going full dex will make my accuracy sucks.

Is acuracy a real problem?
What do u guys think about status?

Thanks!

You can go full dex+str equipment for extra single target damage.
Or 250 str 150 dex plus items for better aoe/farm.
Damage formula uses only your “normal” attack value to determine the % reduction from defense, even if you crit, so dex is mostly for increasing your single target dps (more attacks, more blessing hits, countering the reduced damage) VS bosses.
Highest damaging solution for aoe is to go sapper instead of QS and go full STR with 0 dex.

PS: for the ping thing, TOS has a pretty slow attack rate. Even at high attack speed, there’s around 300-400ms between each single attack, so unless you have 150-200 ping you wont notice that much of a difference on archer.

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You can honestly get away with just investing 80-100 Dex on falconer3 for pve. Stats on hg equipment will cover the rest. If you are pvping though you’ll have to invest double that or more.

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Usually I never go full DEX with a char, since it doesn’t give crit rate anymore. For archer I’d still put 200 DEX in the build though, but still pump STR at least in the beginning for extra damage output.

Since the HG gear stat rework, I always go high dex on my archer chars (full if PVE only) since the lack in con and str can simply be compensated with gear switching.

Ping rate aside, PVE-wise I’ve noticed block pen being more needed than accuracy for most if not nearly all of the content. Even in PVP, you can just let ally wiz and clerics to roll those high-evasion archers and swordsmen with magic damage but without enough block pen anyone with a shield and decent gear is simply going to block your attacks.

The innate evasion boost from going high/full dex also helps a lot in terms of surviving in most PVE scenarios and really saves you alot from pot-chugging.

Lastly, if you intend to play DPS as well for a Falcon3 build you’d naturally want to invest in Crit Rate and/or at least Rogue1+3xWWcards - and doing so means you’ll get a lot more from having high Crit Atk from naturally having high/full dex.

I have been recommended to apply 140 DEX and then the rest in STR by an experienced friend… however… I have noticed that the most popular build for Falc 3 + BM says that we should apply EVERYTHING onto DEX.

Can someone tell me if DEX is also going to improve the overhall damage for the Falc 3? I mean, to BM it’s a given because it’s basically going to shoot a whole lot faster.

For instance… today I was doing lvl 300 castle dungeon and I was hitting for 3-5k each shot (Using Manamana + Lv9 Didel), however a guy that was 18 levels ahead of me was dealing 9k.

To sum it up I would like to have high AA damage but still have “healthy” Falcon damage.

On a last note: which weapons should I be using? should I buy aspana, upgrade the ones I have or wait completely until lvl 350? ( I am currently 330)

This is a random video of me mobbing in december, look at how i move.
As a falcon you have to move like that, you aggro stuff and move in circles or lines to group them for skills.
Pre-Emptive Strike is your main source of damage, when you have it toggled on it will launch a Sonic Strike (if you have disable hovering attribute or no hovering) on the next enemy you hit every 5 seconds.

Now, there’s a problem with going full DEX, even if like it (i was full dex at the moment of the video, now i have around 5700-6000 secondary weapon attack and maxed sonic strike attribute E-PEEN STROKING)
Your red card slot will always be triple centaurus card to hit a lot of targets with your spells and sonic strike, so you cannot use the velniamonkey combo, and most Falc3 take rogue, so you’ll have werewolf cards in purple slots.

This makes the build really weak against world bosses compared to a dedicated player with biteregina.

The damage from autos is too low, and even with insane gear you’ll never be able to farm high end content efficently with only autos, and most of the damage on your autos will come from QS3 Running Shot.
So, a bit of DEX (between 90 and 120 usually, maybe even 150) and rest STR or ALL STR are the best stats for using the falcon for what is meant to do (aoe damage), the single target damage from Running Shot and auto attacks is just here to easen up single target damage on bosses.

TLDR: 90-150 dex + dex from secondary items like amulets is enough to reach the first 3-4 attack speed brackets without hindering aoe damage too much.

EXTRA SUPER TIP: you can use enchant fire scrolls to get an extra blessing hit on your auto attacks.
EXTRA TIPPERINO 2: wait for level 350 to get an orange pistol and crossbow, even with terrible stats orange weapons are as strong as upgraded weapons from lower tiers. To easen up the level up you can use level 5 red gems in your gun (red gems in offhand are a staple in every build using a gun).

Thanks a bunch for the tips you have given me :slight_smile:

Why is the full dex a problem now though? as I mentioned the most popular build is currently going for it… Is it because it hinders your mobbing by a BIG AMOUNT? aka, falcon won’t do jack shoot and leads you to only have Boss damage?

Regarding the lvl 5 gem on the gun, can I later remove it or would it destroy the item (Don’t exactly remember)?

Edit1: should I also get the Running shot gem?
Edit 2: My current build is A2 -> QS3 -> Falc 3 -> BM1

Sorry if i reply only now, you can remove gems by paying a little amount, the gem loses 1 level. I would suggest doing it on a gun you are likely to use on other characters.
Running shot gem is really expensive, but it’s good, you have to put it in armor tho or you waste a slot in weapon.
Your current build is fine, people just find it more efficent to go rogue1 instead of a2 since the red slots are filled by centaurus card.
Full dex is not a problem, it’s just that the enemy defense % is based on your raw physical attack, not the actual damage/crit/critattack, so you actually lose a good chunk of damage because you have 300 less str, and deal less damage because that raw physical attack helped you penetrate the enemy defense.

Most of those people with full dex “funny” builds you see on videos have insane atk weapons to mitigate this.

Falcon will always hit every 5 seconds in all circumstances.

My point -> 60/70% STR+ all str gear helps you oneshot or two-shot monsters waves in farming spots like hunting grounds (when you have decent weaps and attributes).

Full dex is stronger when you attack from behind with rogue + full composition with critical rate buffs, AKA when you are rogue1 and you have an archer2 plus a chronomancer in your team.

Hi Gaden,

I can’t thank you enough for the tips.

On a last note, I have been experiencing a problem with my falcon, I use pre-emptive strike and the guy just looks at the enemies even if I attack them.

Any idea on how to fix this? I have tried deactivating “remove hovering” but he doesn’t use hovering either x.x

Eitherway I will post this on the general forum thread and bug thread(barely ever used)

Once again, I can’t thank you enough for the tips :slight_smile:

Try using Call to see if it unlocks, even if you have the call+roost attribute the falcon gets stuck sometimes.
PS: Any build is viable on falcon3, the class is really strong. Do not fear trying stuff.

Hello! I’m Team-Z from the Falc+BM/Falc+Merg/Falc+Hacka Guide.

I choose Full DEX because of Archer 2 Kneeling Shot. With 621 DEX Kneeling Shot gives 979 Phys Atk. While on Monstrance Effect, it gives 1273 Phys Atk. (Both Secondary and Primary)

I’m always using Kneeling Shot right after Pheasant, so it can get the Phys Atk buff.

For World Bosses you will always be on Kneeling Shot, so you won’t have problem with damage.

Furthermore, DEX gives more Evasion and Crit Atk. That’s why I choose Full DEX.

With the recommended equipments, you can go up 200 STR and 700 DEX.

Well, I think that’s it!

(But you can always go for others builds. But you really should go Full DEX for Archer 2 builds because of Kneeling Shot buff damage buff)

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Tks for the reply.

If I got it right, considering im a QS3FALC3, ill have to decide
thanks. What about gems? Considering im a falc mergen. xD

You can literally do the same build with musket and deal triple the damage so i dont get why you would be doing a world boss build on falcon, an aoe class.

Inje goes full green gems but he has high trans and solmiki armor when you are less geared red is better

Because I like it…?

It’s about gameplay style that works well. And I can buff Pheasant with Kneeling Shot too. And maybe Sonic Strike going down on the Boss every 4 Secs, buffed with Kneeling Shot, approches the build to a musketeer build.

And my build is not WB focused. It’s an " all in one " build. You can do everything with it, even WB. Will other classes have more damage if they are WB focused? Yes. But I’ll be there too!

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I just went full dex with mine. Didn’t wanna bother myself thinking too much about stats

Then I have every single skill, Mergen included, to enhance level 100

Full leather miki, level 8 gems in all. Doing just fine

I might be outdated, haven’t been playing anymore