Split-arrow is oblique shot on steroids. It hits 2 extra targets with an extra 100% damage, gif pls
Rogue looks like a pvp focused class, even more so than scout.
how is hunter skills? Iāve heard both good and bad about hunters. do you think archer c3 is better than hunter c3? or is dog rush too strong?
archer c3 can at least target wide variety of vulnerabilities, but Iāve heard hunter actually has good aoe damage.
You canāt get hunter until R3 so youāll have to get either C2 archer or C1 hunter m8.
I donāt think you can compare C3 hunter with C3 archer since you cant get C3 hunter until rank 5. Hunter literally has zero aoe skills, maybe youāre thinking about fletcher which has crossfire.
Edit: Ranger has excellent aoe with barrage, high anchoring and bounce shot.
What about the AOE of Archer C3, sapper c1, Fletcher c2.
iām thinking in something like:
15/15 Multi shot
15/15 Oblique
10/10 heavy shot
5/15 swift step (25% critical rate)
5/5 punji
5/5 claymore
5/5 detonator
5/10 broadhead
10/10 cross fire
5/5 magic arrow
5/5 singijeon
instead of sapper, what about scoutās camouflage, cloaking and flare shot?
That looks like a really solid build. If I knew wugushi was this bad I probably would have done something similar, if not exactly the same. As for sapper vs scout, sapper for sure.
another option is ranger high anchoring / barrage but i donāt know if its worth to spent my points in stead aim or critical shot
Read through most of this thread,
I just have a question after reading that Wugushi isnāt so good. Currently level 6x and getting close to chosing either wugushi or sapper.
At the build mention above of archer c3, sapper c1, Fletcher c2. Isnāt it a waste just to go sapper c1? I thought sapper was only good at c2 with the broom trap. If so then archer c2, sapper c2 and fletcher c2 would be better?
What are your thoughts and what path are you currently taking for your new character.
Thank you.
So for the archer c3, sapper c1 , fletcher c2.
Would fletcher c2 be able to replicate the same low cool down barbs that barbs are able to achieve with Singijeon, Magic and crossfire (30s)?
Also, if I was always in a party would it be better be wugushi over fletcher?
Thanks
C2 Fletcherās singijeon looks like an amazing skill on paper - a 10s CD with 10s uptime and some shock mechanic iām unfamiliar with. The problem is getting to C2. In that sense archer -> archer -> archer -> sapper -> fletcher seems weak and archer -> ranger -> ranger -> ranger -> fletcher -> fletcher seems much stronger IMO.
I firmly believe wugushi is trash. At C2 you have 2 aoe abilities. However, they have to be used in conjunction to be effective resulting in having only 1 aoe ability on a 35 cd. If you are in a party it will matter less since they can carry you so choose your preferred class. One barb can carry a party of 5, in my experience at least.
Cheers
Are there any videos featuring singijeon for more than just a preview? I donāt want to grind to c2 and get singijeon just to find out its not very good.
I was under the impression that singijeon left an aoe effect on the ground after use. After watching the preview video thatās not the case. I still think it will be good in conjunction along with the rest of the fletcher/ranger aoe skills.
Still waiting for someone who knows where to find heart seeker recipe ( lv 75 purple bow rarity )
Hey Imagineryfoe !
Iāve read the entire topic, and when deciding on my class progression for archer I was scared of the lack of AoE as I was planning to go Archer C3 > Wugushi C2 > Something.
I have re-concidered my build and might go for Archer C2 > Ranger C3 for more AoE damage and for rank 6 I wanted something with good single target, so maybe wugushi C1 ? What do you think ? Is it not worth taking wugushi for just 1 rank ? What should I go for rank 6 instead (concidering Iāll be aiming for single target as I THINK I have enough AoE).
Thanks !
Hey man, I donāt think going C1 wugushi for any purpose has value. This is because for every skill level you gain +1 second duration on your poisons as well as increased damage. Extra duration on poisons is essential for wugushi. I would recommend a minimum of C2 if you choose wugushi. Fletcher is probably better but I havenāt done any of the math.
Thanks for the reply !
First, do you think only going Archer C2 still gives nice damage on Multishot and Oblique ? At least enough to level as confortably as you ?
Secondly, Fletcher C1 doesnāt seem to have good single target tho, even his AoE is pretty average in C1. What about Schwarzer ? They seem to have some single target.
Maybe even Falconer, but itās seems that they have HUGE CDsā¦
What do u guys think about Rogue?
Iām currently at lv 72 archer > archer > sapper
And Iām thinking about getting scout > rogue > rogue
I think itās worth dropping archer C2 in favor for C2 of wugu/fletcher. I donāt think the damage loss from 5 lvls of oblique/multi will hinder the lvling process too much. Also, with a lower lvl of oblique shot youāll need less points in SPR.
Schwarzer looks really good for single target dps/mobility. But I donāt know if the mounting/unmounting will be cumbersome. As for falconer, Iām against any class that has long CD on spells unless you are an auto-attack build.
Rogues for grinding/lvling donāt seem to powerful, but they look like they have nice tricks and really good burst damage with backstab.
Well, Archer C2 is mainly for Swift Stepās attribute (+ 25% crit rate), but also for additionnal levels on Multishot and Oblique for early leveling.
I think Ranger C3 covers the AoE issues, and Schwarzer actually has some AoE like Caracole, but especially Retreat shot which is surprisingly good for AoE according to Steparuās video (hopefully it wasnāt nerfed).
Yeah, I might not be as strong for single target as wugushi C2/C3, but with Concentrate fire, Multishot, Retreat Shot (again, if it wasnāt nerfed), and Spiral arrow I might be fine !
Also, concerning Pistol/Mounting comptability with Archer/Rangerās skills it seems they are ALL compatible !
If you can use all archer/ranger skills on a mount i think that would be an excellent choice. I can see that you have put a lot of thought into it and whatever you decide to do I hope you share your experience so that we can all learn from it.