this “likes” is a fraction of the community, dont be blind
Yes, you don’t reach 50-100 likes on a topic generally without it reaching 8-10k+ views.
YOU don’t be blind, look at other threads before you make weightless claims.
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Grind 1 day, buy token from market. Stop whining. seriously.
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Pay attention, since you clearly aren’t. This has already been addressed why this is a bad excuse.
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Should go get my glass fast, need to drink all these tears.
imo the tokens don’t offer enough for the monthly cost of buying one with real money. I’d much prefer to grind the in game cost and pay with silver.
level and class ?
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Might as well remove wizard attribute being able to get +1 buff count, its P2W! Or was it elementalist?
u dont accept any constructive criticism, in your opinion you have said a major true, but its not like that… try to figure out what p2w means. This Threat is bad for community, since, like u said, a lot of people like it, and thats is not a break deal, a lot of people can be wrong as well.
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Saying “Just buy it from the market” is a dumb as hell argument anyway because tokens don’t pop out of thin fuckin’ air.
Someone has to buy that with their real money in the first place. Just because that person wasn’t you, doesn’t mean IRL money wasn’t affected somewhere for a single player to have an advantage over a non-paying one conceptually.
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Its not that dumb at all.
SO let me make sure I understand this thread correctly.
You are being invited to live in a building.
90% of the tenants pay their rent.
You canot aford to pay rent, hence you are asked to live in a room without a TV (for free).
You may then borrow a TV from any of the paying tenants by let’s say walking their dog once a month.
You belive that is unfair, because you will not pay, but you refuse to do anything to earn the thing another way either.
Your argument is - “If some people pay for it and I don’t want to and will not try to get it by applying a few hours of my time, it is broken and should be given to me for free because otherwise the world will cease to exist”.
I will now make sure to forget about this thread and its preachers ever existing by hitting my head on the wall repeatedly until I black out. Peace.
I think your analogy was entirely too convoluted to bother understanding. Maybe simplify it a bit?
You sir completely missed the Point, and it was really hard to miss! Gj! The problem is not that umust pay, its fhe pay to win stuff. The fact that you can but it with silver ia just an excuse, it is not less pay to win cause u can buy it with silver from other who payed IRL Money. If all the guys who haave the tokens dont want to Lose the bonus is another thing. We are just saying that is wrong to give such bonus with premium items in a f2p cause its p2w, no matter How low the bonus is or if u can buy it from silver by others who bought it. I hope IMC can think about it. Edit: Younare not the only one who missed the Point, so dont give up!
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As painful as it is to admit, I agree with most of your points. I think, anyways. But just to make sure, let me reiterate it so you can confirm/deny? ^-^
You purchased tokens. You aren’t against tokens, or purchasing them with real money. The problem you have with the tokens are that the boosts they provide give a clear advantage to token users over non-token users.
They don’t merely save time, like from exp. boosts, for example. They don’t merely give cosmetic effects. They decidedly alter your stats and abilities as a player, no matter how slight, and that pushes it into Pay To Win waters. Am I following so far?
I agree with all of that. While I, personally, don’t see the huge deal with these particular buffs, it’s the principle of the matter. I’m not going to freak out over +1 Buff Slot, or +3 Movement Speed, but I can understand how it gives those token’d players an advantage. I understand they paid for that advantage, so it’s not favoritism, but according to principle - it’s P2W, even if only a little. It’s not game-breaking.
The only reason I’m reluctant to agree with you, is because you’ve kind of been a butthole in most of your replies, and you have this narcissistic attitude regarding likes. xP
To further explain my personal opinion, I’m even okay with that small level of P2W, if it doesn’t progress further than that. If it helps the game stay afloat, I’m wholeheartedly for it. I just have a hard time agreeing with your way of handling people who disagree with you. ^-^"
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Thats exactly the Point, the bonus is rly nothing but its still wrong. Its also kind of silly that IMC gave this 2 silly p2w bonus when they could have given other 2 bonus For convenience. Btw For his attitude, also Others where hostile with him and Others are just trolling. Edit: @Seraphe
It’s funny how people don’t see the fact that people who are selling token is the same thing as buying silver.
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Personally, this thread is here to create a known audience about what it is you just outlined. Frankly whether people like me or not, I don’t care so much, I’m quieting down a bit in this thread, if other people want to pitch in they’re welcome to, but I’ve said all I have to say.
I could care less about likes in general, but when people come in here and try to brush off the idea like its bad and the problem doesn’t exist to begin with because they’re either 1) ignorant, or 2) happy with their p2w perks, or 3) afraid of losing them without compensation.
I view the amount of likes towards the thread vs likes against it (people with opposing views) as a means to judge how much the community agrees or disagrees on a subject, which is why they’re referenced in my posts. People come in here saying it’s not a problem, well, people disagree with them.
Feel free to browse through my other threads if you like, all of my posts are in regards to improving the game for everyone’s best interest, as opposed to how you see it as narcissism. As I stated above, I could care less if people like me or not which is basically the opposite of what you describe.
I assure you, I can be quite nice when I’m not in such a hostile environment. I personally feel some of the dry responses I gave people were appropriate and may simply not be as “tolerant” as you are.
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