Tree of Savior Forum

Excessive Token Benefits

I agree. People who don’t pay for the game should stop complaining.
It’s not like in other games where you constantly have to buy stuff every single day/week in order to keep up.
Buying a token each month is not hard, be it via ingame cash or real money, and by doing so you support the developers to continue working on the game.

It’s there, but the difference is very, veeeeery small and only slightly noticeable if a token user is running right next to you.

how can that be good if I dont feel it o.o and is it such a big advantage to have that? are you in a race with someone? or you just want everything fair.

WE PAY SO YOU CAN PLAY THE GAME FOR FREE. either stfu or stop playing.

I agree with the term, we pay so others can play the game for free. :slight_smile:

Sorry to burst all of your bubbles, but I’m a token user for the next year or so. With this mindset, you might as well say token users should all gain 10k+ hp so freemium people can play for free.

Of course, this is an exaggeration, but the point remains. The game should be fair. There is GvG in this game, sometimes yes, you may be ACTUALLY racing someone.

Some people here, unlike the naysayers, simply think of more than themselves.

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Or you can just buy token from the market board
Just another p2w garbage thread.

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Or you can just not leave your garbage unconstructive posts in my thread, thanks… For nothing.

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will be always token in the market. You dont really think that hard man, you just threw some possibilities that any retard coluld do.

Just another p2w garbage thread.(2)

It’s not about tokens being in the market.

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Simple solution: Disable 1 buff + 3 mspeed in PvP.

Done, both sides can be happy now

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Well, I did say in my OP that I’d simply like the buff slot / +3 speed to be standard and not removed to begin with. That way people don’t feel penalized.

But yeah guess the p2w people are going to come with their pitchforks to fight me on that. Heh.

Not entirely sure how GvG works, isn’t it just like owPvP between 2 guilds? Seems like it might be strange for everyone to just get slower when war gets declared.

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I mostly like these boots because it has 3 socket slots,but thats not until you got some really good gems to put in them.

Beyond that it has very limited use, i always change boots when im about to fight.

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Yeah the three sockets seem like a pro for them, but are you referring to PvP situations?

Obviously movement speed doesn’t honestly have any impact on PvE, the buff slot on the other hand is a different story there.

Off topic a bit:
I’m a bit surprised to see KR releasing premium mounts for everyone for TP. This is really only going to make this more noticable.

But yeah, not too excited about that making the problem even more apparent, despite having over 1k TP ready to spend. Assuming we get it for only TP too and not on a vendor for silver.

Well, besides 3 slots and 3 movespeed, it gives literally nothing, if a player goes for 4 pieces leather buff, hes most likely after evasion, making these boots kind of bad as he/she would miss out 100+ evasion later in the game.

Plate users would lose alot of hp, cloth would drop sp/magic damage reduction, in general i find no real use for the windrunners except for travelspeed.

+3 movement speed alont makes barely a difference in combat.

However if a player start stacking movement speeds from different sources, sure that could change alot.

Token + windrunner puts the player in permanent Trot lvl 1 buff (+6 movement speed)

Stacking with accessories, thats another +3, granted you rolled movespeed on all 3 pieces, having you reach 39, then you might wanna get that gun, forgot its name for another +1, we just reached +40 total movement speed!

But then again, the +3 from token would barely make a huge difference.

37 would still be enough, if a player really wants to run fast at all times.

I agree with what you’re saying, just the difference doesn’t have to be -huge-.

It just has to be enough to stick on someone. -Slightly faster- is enough for this. Luckily wizards and archers have disengages which help mitigate this problem at as low as C1, but it should still be mentioned. (Not that I’m convinced OP wizards need it at the moment heh.)

By the time you hit the level optimal for PVP, you would be able to afford a token from the markets. What you’re pushing for is simply pointless.

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Where do you grind to get 400k? I grind a lot (sometimes 5hours + ) and never get that much

Either your level is too low, or… :stuck_out_tongue:

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I’m lvl 160 but yea I don’t have lot of aoe dmg =/

Man if you think 3 mov speed do any impact in pvp, plz do yourself a favor, dont go pvp, cos u gonna be eaten alive.

Please stop trying to change the subject.

My thread is about excessive token benefits, not how bad or good you think you are in PvP.

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