Eh, I guess my data was flawed. I didn’t bother checking the actual number of players, and based things only on observation (i.e. only saw one player pass by during the farming duration).
you have to click on the channeldrop down box to refresh. You could be 1/100 but a few mins later a few people can show up and it will still display 1/100. Not until you click on the drop down box then it will refresh.
I’m not sure if this was mentioned before but I just asked support and they said this:
Although they misinterpreted my intent for asking the question, they did answer it.
If you are looking at royal guard pants.
its about 100-135 each. I have farmed about 32 pieces of it during my whole stay on 4 hours. Same channel. Pretty sure that is Map wide for colify
PS. that 4 hours i was alone farming i have never notice 2 recipe drop next of each other and after each drop. Only case is Silver/Gold Buffed Colify dropping a few of it but then it will need me to kill another 100-135 to get the next one. Not sure if the buffed mobs affect the dpk but yea.
Silver/gold colify do drop the recipe though… <— once you see this you can go for another 100-135 for another drop rare occasion
Kill count does not reset. It will stay until maintenance. Minotaur hoofs are about 33 each there.
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i think this whole dkp think is wrong… i have many examples but for instance today i farmed 20 blue spion leather alot of them were around 50 kills and bam i got them in fact the first 5 were but then my 6th was another 250 kills till i got it and yes i was alone in chan i checked then 7th was 150 kills then another 50 kills and 2 back to back its fking random theorycraft all u want but like i said thats just one example. ive also had a new char get 4 yes 4 monster gems within 10 minutes 2 being same one
What are the monster gems please elaborate.
If you are killing those with 2 spawn pools. I am not surprise if both drop within the 10 minutes of each.
Spion leather is not DPK. it’s rng for a fact i can get 2 of it side by side. just a low value rng.
Dpk are items like white boater , wiz bracelets battle brackets and so on.
Monster gems are defintely about 10k + - kills on channels.
I have gotten a few sniped away from people hard work. I am not gonna say what i gotten but yea.
There is two system of drop rate around. Thats for sure.
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ok and what about 4 monster gems in 10 minutes 2 the same one with id say around 300 kills total
Which is why i asked you to elaborate what gems you gotten.
You can have 2x same 2 x different but as long as the kill accumulated for each of them through out you can snatch/ jackpot strolling into the total kills.
It is to be said that people can get up 2 gems from same Maps with 2 different spawn pool having the same mob. E.g Hanaming gem.
One more note did you switch channel when you do that?
Which is the process. If you switch channels and you killed. Pretty much…
You are a lucksack strolling in and just on time stealing people’s hard work efforts or bots effort in that case lol whichever the case.
- note as mention DPK count IS channel specific and each of the channel have their own count of death of mobs.
If you are distrusting DPK. A single relevant research. Go farm wizard bracelet alone. Ensure that no one is at that channel. kill 1 thousand of it after the inital bracelet drop. You will it find the next one. I have disblief this in the past and after testing it. It’s horrible fact…
it was infroctor chinecy and 2 leafbug and no i didnt change chan . im not here to argue i jsut been watching this thread and reading up on it and when i saw the fact that you and other people saying monster gems are 100% for certain dkp well i beg to differ. now do i care enough to argue nah im just saying man i disagree maybe i had some bug and got lucky and it is dkp …
i killed 5000 and never got a single wizard bracer so i bought mine 
You sure you are the only one on channel?. Stray players came in will get your wizard braclets. Happen to me a few times. lol i had about 10k kill count testing it
Leaf bug has two spawns. Tadah.
Congratulation you have used up your luck on your starter adventure for 4 gems. Hope it goes rolling cough.
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ok i got a test for u an being alone on the map is not an issue go farm me 15 brown tini horns and ill pay you 15 mil silver and you will have some good data i cant force myself to farm them 1 is as far as i got with 2700 kills on what should supposedly be every 600
and yes i have terrible luck with getting gem drops tyvm
Farm them yourself i am done with my archmage bracelet lol.
Brown tini horns drop from magician and the rest as well. I gotten about 1 per 1k kill in tini magician i am not sure about the rest.
I am just saying something that is shown from data and from people.
If you distrust it. It totally up to you. This is your opinion and i am highlighting that double spawns do have double rates to drop gem ETC.
Though they are shared? most likely the case. Feel free to doubt it.
i apriciate this thread its good info etc and ill keep checking in on it but im skeptical. i for one hope its random luck cause you spend alot of work and then have someone steal your drop is kinda fked. if there is a dkp system i hope they remove it or stop using it on new content
We all hope so. We wanted a pure RNG pattern at least it rewards you if you get it randomly when you are farming… As compared to you can literally stole people efforts at farming gems etc.
From what I gathered and seen myself, I believe both RNG and DPK system is implemented. Some items are based on RNG in result seeing two recipe drop from a few kills from each other. While DPK system works on hard to get items such as Gem or rare weapons/items. You can check ToSBase as they updated certain items with DPK system.
I think the whole DPK is a terrible system and it is very frustrating when seeing another person in the same channel which potentially steal the item you work so hard because he was doing some random quest or just randomly killing. I spent 3 whole days trying to farm Siaulav Mage Gem when the map is huge and spawn rate is not the greatest. Some people probably assume I was botting because I was there literally for hours lol.
I tried to use the DPK to my advantage as I calculated how much I was killing per hour and based on guessing how much random people were killing to calculate which day I need to spend the most to farm to get the Gem. Is the system flawed? Of course, since I wouldn’t know if someone else came and farmed when I wasn’t farming and possible got the Gem before me in turn wasting all my effort.
Sometimes I don’t think it’s even worth to farm Monster Gem that have low spawn rates just to get that +1 Skill when some random can make your 20+ hr effort go to waste in matter of minutes just being at the right place and the right time.
Yes, i feel you. I wasted around 100hours over 3 weeks trying to get a gem.
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