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I would like to make an alt INT cleric for PVE dungeons. Not taking it to ET. Since party members will be random in every dungeon it needs to be able to DPS in a 5-cleric party or solo heal 4 glass cannon quarrel shooters.
I realize many have said Cleric 3 is too much, but I just love laying down a roomful carpet of healing tiles. Please advice on where to go from Cleric 3 
you also can go sadhu3/druid1
Sadhu2 / Druid2 is an alternative.
Mmmn, I just watched some Sadhu videos. Since I already have a Wiz3 Kino 3 I would like to play something that doesn’t root you in order to DPS.
Is plague doctor useful in 200+ dungeons? Or is it more for pvp?
seriously? c3 cleric for dps? 
Well, Cure is one of the best INT scaling skills… so its not entirely mind bogling to pick (furthermore he likes the heal carpet…) Though landing all of its damage potential is impossible on moving targets and limitation on flying enemies. I’d go with C3 Krivis2 (or sadhu2) then Druid2 if i were to make a damage cleric
Cleric 3 ocd cured … perfect heal tiles
There’s nothing else in the cleric class for INT builds that can compare with the damage that Possession is putting out, especially as an AOE (30 hits vs up to 5 targets in 10secs channeling, 20s cd). Zaibas will fall off hard late game due to hit count limit. Owls are great, but have a ridiculously long cooldown and will often not do much dps for non-ET dungeons thanks to the constant need to move.
You -could- go Bokor2 to spam Hexing-Effigy instead, so something like Cleric3-Bokor2-Druid1-PD. You can spread Hexing with PD’s Pandemic, which makes it a fairly reliable AOE every 25s.
Nothing else works that well IMO.
Cure is only for bosses and doesn’t work against flying monsters. You can max it but you don’t need it at lvl 15, neither heal lvl 15. Cleric 3 is a total waste for a DPS build. And heal damages will fall off without attribute in higher lvl.
Lol ? If you are playing full INT Zaibas is one of the most powerful skills in Cleric tree. You need it lvl 10 or 15 ofc.
nooooooo, never sggest sadhuc1 or sadhuc3
Possession feels too much like my gravity pole spamming main, so I just started a Krivis and already pumped 30 attributes into Zaibas. Just reached 50 and tried 1st dungeon; Zaibas is so strong… I think could’ve duo that whole thing with the linker in the random party.
Plan to go: Cleric3 / Krivis2 / Druid1
Krivis3 or druid2 for rank 7?
Cleric C3 + Sadhu C3, this would theoretically be nice DPS with fade and Safety zone
but better dps cleric would go cleric c2, diev c3, druid/oracle c1, PD (Saintone DievDoctor)
or c2 cleric, bokor c3, oracle, kabbalist/PD
Most powerful? Compared to what? Diev Owls are technically the strongest cleric dmg ability, but it has the weakness of Long cooldown and inability to be moved.
Right now with 30% attributes at lvl 128, my lvl 5 Possession hits for 1.5k x 30 hits, with a cooldown of 20secs. I do 3k per hit vs holy-weak monsters like Poata from merc missions (so that’s up to 90k dmg every 20secs).
Later on at lvl 220+ there will be monsters with 80-100k+ hp - what can your lvl 10/15 zaibas do by then? Don’t get me wrong, it’s still decent dmg vs bosses, but it’s not really going to do much later on. Possession is not perfect (can be interrupted) but at least the damage is there, and you at least have safety zone to Ensure 1 full cast every 48secs.
sadhu 3 works very good with c3 cleric
Safety zone is one good old skill to help. But Sterea Trofh is awesome. You will forget about using safetyzone when you have that skill
I don’t get what was not clear.
(It seems it’s +50% on this boss, still strong without this)
HP of mobs at lvl 240+ http://www.tosbase.com/database/monsters/?page=80
Do a spell has to one shot everything anyway ?
Please put 3 mob inside that hitbox. You will see how terrible zaibas turn out to be.
Sure it is good vs boss. But try it in alemeth and you will walking around 30s for it to cooldown.
Make sure you run all the time because you might get hit hard and long gone.
Carnivory is worked as the same.
Furthermore, Zaibas is good. But may be too good. It kill lower mob with just 1 or 2 hit. Then you have to lure the other mob inside to kill or you sitting duck waiting 30s cooling down the skill. Cleric has short range AA, not like mage. With weak connection, good luck trying hitting the mob
Get Sadhu 2 for possession, im cleric 3 > sadhu 3 > kabbalist
My main dps is Possession good for pt grinding alemeth to maven lv270 mobs here is weak to holy property attacks
All you are showing me is that it does good damage vs 1 target. So does Cure. So does Carnivory. So does Possession. So do Owl statues.
Can it compare to Owl statues, which does 3 hits per statue to all enemies in range for every attack?
Can it compare to Possession, which binds + hits up to 5 enemies 30 times, with only a 20second cooldown? Possession is also Holy element, which means double damage vs dark while also having no resists to worry about (whereas you have to deal with lightning-resistant enemies with Zaibas).
For reference, on my lvl 129 Sadhu (35% possession attribute), I currently deal about 1.6k per hit with Possession against non-holy-weak monsters, or 48k damage every 20 seconds. Against targets like Poata (mission boss) I deal 3.2k++ per hit, or 96k damage. Every 20 seconds.
Does Zaibas come close to even competing with that? And that’s only accounting for 1 target. Against a group of 3? Your 19x2=38 hits on lvl 15 Zaibas becomes 12-13 hits per target. Against 5, that drops further more to 7-8 hits.
Possession still maintains 30 hits be it 1 or 5 targets.
Owl statues still hits all targets in range for 3 hits each time.
So how is Zaibas one of the most powerful cleric skills again?
Yes and ? Do your own researches please, If Zaibas can destroy 1 target WHICH IS A BOSS, you can understand what it does to multiple targets.
Cure does less damages compared to one charge of Zaibas and is only good in PvE. Carnivory is a rank 6 skill, it is stronger than Zaibas ofc. Possession is really powerful but only in PvE. Owl statue is mainly for PvE too. Strongest skills are not those you can only use in PvE, AI is boring as fuk in this game.
Owl statue is only relevant in PvE, doesn’t have any combo to run with and can be countered by a QS in PvP.
Possession is only strong for PvE as I said. You can’t do it in PvP with your Protected Zone up, people are not stupid.
Where are they lol ?
Here ? Oh wait they are weak against lightning (and those monsters are really resistant in general).
Yes, because try your Possession or your Owl statue in PvP and let’s see what you can do with that compared to Zaibas combos. Same in PvE because Cryo + Krivis ;).
Zaibas deals more damage per hit at lvl 100+ without any attribute %.
It’s enough because it deals more than Possession.
Zaibas combos with a Cryo or Zaibas combo with a Druid… or with Paladin. And again, it’s “one of”, not the most powerful skill.
Remember that Zaibas scale with INT Matk and Magic Amplification. Possession and Carnibory don’t have an INT ratio.