DPS Cleric 3 >?

markcover1 · July 13, 2016, 2:41am

soldatazur:

zellista:

All you are showing me is that it does good damage vs 1 target.

Yes and ? Do your own researches please, If Zaibas can destroy 1 target WHICH IS A BOSS, you can understand what it does to multiple targets.

zellista:

So does Cure. So does Carnivory. So does Possession. So do Owl statues.

Cure does less damages compared to one charge of Zaibas and is only good in PvE. Carnivory is a rank 6 skill, it is stronger than Zaibas ofc. Possession is really powerful but only in PvE. Owl statue is mainly for PvE too. Strongest skills are not those you can only use in PvE, AI is boring as fuk in this game.

zellista:

Can it compare to Owl statues

Owl statue is only relevant in PvE, doesn’t have any combo to run with and can be countered by a QS in PvP.

zellista:

Can it compare to Possession

Possession is only strong for PvE as I said. You can’t do it in PvP with your Protected Zone up, people are not stupid.

zellista:

whereas you have to deal with lightning-resistant enemies with Zaibas

Where are they lol ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sJqzByzl3E

Here ? Oh wait they are weak against lightning (and those monsters are really resistant in general).

zellista:

Does Zaibas come close to even competing with that?

Yes, because try your Possession or your Owl statue in PvP and let’s see what you can do with that compared to Zaibas combos. Same in PvE because Cryo + Krivis ;).

zellista:

(35% possession attribute), I currently deal about 1.6k per hit with Possession against non-holy-weak monsters

Zaibas deals more damage per hit at lvl 100+ without any attribute %.

zellista:

Against 5, that drops further more to 7-8 hits.

It’s enough because it deals more than Possession.

zellista:

So how is Zaibas one of the most powerful cleric skills again?

Zaibas combos with a Cryo or Zaibas combo with a Druid… or with Paladin. And again, it’s “one of”, not the most powerful skill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjmoD3I-Td4

Remember that Zaibas scale with INT Matk and Magic Amplification. Possession and Carnibory don’t have an INT ratio.

Zaibas hit 192 hit. Divide to all http://www.tosbase.com/database/attributes/402006/
You know “Total count does not increase” mean, right?
Zaibas:
5 mob = 192/5 (ea)= 7 hit (ea) = 7*(356+Int+Matk) (ea)
38 hit total = 38*(356+int+Matk)
Possesion:
5 mob = 30 hit (ea) = 30*(565+Matk) (ea)
30 hit each = 150 hit total = 150*(565+Matt) total
Hope your (356+int)7 greater than 30565.
And if you said possession can not use in PVP, then good luck knocked down by ABE in front of sadhu face. You know what he will do next.
And dont worry. You will face your lightning resist mob in alementh. They are small. But deadly

soldatazur · July 13, 2016, 7:54pm

Where did I say it was increasing ?

Not greater into multiple targets, I was clear with that but you never read :(. But you should try with a build full INT, damages are surprising.

A Cryo will freeze your Sadhu, then good luck in front of Krivis face, he will kill the Sadhu with a Zaibas lvl 1 meh. It also means your Possession will need someone else CC ALL THE TIME to work in PvP, compared to Krivis Druid combo stand alone :d (or Paladin). Or you have to go Paladin to knock down enemies, not sure if it’s worth it. Possession in PvP… I’ll read everything on this forum while Cleric got rekt everytime by Detonate/Capture.

Oh yeh, I’ll have hard trouble to reduce their magic defense with my Paladin . And what are resist to lightning when a mob is frost, Cryolinker + Krivis <3, know your basics.

BlueByu · July 14, 2016, 2:07am

i mean sadhu c3 and sadhu c1 are just bad circles by themselves

markcover1 · July 14, 2016, 9:45am

zellista:
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This raise my question about you know zaibas hit all enemy 38 hit rather than hit every enemy with 38 hit or not.[quote=“soldatazur, post:23, topic:311040”]
It also means your Possession will need someone else CC ALL THE TIME to work in PvP
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You know that Possession it own is a CC skill right? When you got hit, you can’t walk, you can’t move, you can’t do anything. Just sitting there. All Sadhu need is make the enemy knockdown in range by ABE, or get enemy got confused with Vashita Siddi. Detonate Safety zone. Love it, because they can not do after the invincible grass come after it, and they have nothing left to detonate another. And you sound like they can not detonate all zaibas and grass you set up to mind control other into it. [quote=“soldatazur, post:23, topic:311040”]
Oh yeh, I’ll have hard trouble to reduce their magic defense with my Paladin . And what are resist to lightning when a mob is frost, Cryolinker + Krivis <3, know your basics.
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Linker work with everyone. So don’t make your Zaibas seem so awsome about it.
Cryo most likely will turn chrono 3, so make sure you have friend to turn into a linker to be a slave just to make your limited hit skill great again.

soldatazur · July 16, 2016, 4:11pm

You know that one hit in your face will stop your possession right ?

If you are talking about 1v1 yeh, I hope you are not against a Paladin Kabbalist. No one will let you cast your Possession in PvP, a melee magic skill please.

Quit easy to do in PvE, try it in PvP.

They’ill detonate what is the most annoying, and what about Capture ?

Detonate will not do a lot of damages, it’s just to cancel circles. A druid will not have this problem if he controls the enemy Sapper. And it’s much better on heal tiles or to cancel an annoying Safety Zone.

Ofc it works with everyone, but yes Zaibas is awesome with it man. Do you know the attribute to amplify lightning damages from linker ? And a frost target take much more lightning damages ;).

Not really :/. It’s a good build but it’s not the most popular.

So your main concern is this limit of hits… You’ll have this problem in PvE when there are too many monsters, but not in PvP. Linker C1 is enough, you don’t need more to make Zaibas awesome. And I’ll don’t say it’s a slave, it’s just teamplay man, but stay on your solo Possession game.

Aukuras, or don’t play solo.