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Doubt whit the Build ArcherC1-RangerC3-RogueC3-HackapellC1

Class and Rank Archer
#1

Hello Everyone.

My doubt whit this Build is the next:

  1. Stats Points:
    4:2:1 STR/DEX/CON, Its viable that stats composition?

  2. My rogue skill distrubution is the next:
    15 Sneak HIt
    8 Faint
    10 Evasion
    2 Lachrymator
    10 Backstab

  3. Snake Hit, Guarantees at level 15, 90% of critical attacks, so you have very little critical rate?

Whit that skill distribution is Capture, Vendetta and Burrow, are necesary, and if so, how do you distribute them?.

I have a Corsair C3, and love it and the rogue role is similar, but I want to know more about this build before creating it.

Sorry for my inglish and thanks for you coments.

#2

capture is great for bursting, imagine you capture your friend flame ground, frost cloud, agony pillar and release them all at once. the only downside is 3 minute CD.
sneak hit lv 15 add +90% crit CHANCE to your back attack, so basically with only 79 crit rate at lv 330 you can 100% crit against enemy with 0 crit resist, as long as you are attacking from the back. Compare that to non rogue build who need 785 crit rate to 100% crit.
if you build heavy STR rogue, you need 8 werewolf card lv 10 to maximize sneak hit benefit.
sadly the new meta for archer is heavy DEX archer combine with nualle/ella/glassmole card

#3

Do you have plans to use werewolf cards? If yes DO NOT take the attribute dagger mastery: sudden attack. Here is the thread if you wanna read up on it.

Stats
Stats are weird right now. See, bottom line is “archers go DEX”. The problem is rogues, specifically rogue3, are “basically” STR classes. The class lets you do thing DEX can do, without having any DEX. If you find a compromise between these 2 ideas then good for you :slight_smile:

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Skills
[lacrymator] 10 is great. It lets you go in to the range you need to be without much fuss.

[evasion] would be the least priority for me because of its uptime and you won’t have a lot of evasion for the skill to work with anyway.

[back stab] is in a bit of trouble because IMC changed it. This skill is best used with the karacha set (xbow dagger). IMC changed the skill to be usable with a sword in addition to daggers. Why is this bad? Archers have a feature called auto swap. If you use a skill with the incorrect weapon set equiped, and you have the correct weapon set on your swap hotkeys, this feature will allow you to use the skill by swapping to the correct weapon set for the duration of the skills use.

example
current set: bow
swap set: karacha set

Using [back stab] will cause the system to swap to the karacha set during [back stab] then swap back to the bow when the animation is done.

Now because [back stab] was changed to be usable with a sword, you can’t auto swap for it anymore. You have to manual swap (clunky as hell).

Again, if you are not going werewolf cards, this is really only “usable” on bossing.

[capture] is very good, but you have to ask yourself how many circles you are regularly getting.

[vendetta] is bad, don’t do it.

[burrow] is only good for “afk” soloing. It disables too many skills and goes on cd 2x (entering and leaving the stance).

#4

I would take a few points off feint and put them in capture (not more than 4 because you usually don’t find that amount at once) and burrow (more than 1 feels overkill because you usually aim for max crit without being burrowed as it doesn’t let you use most of your skills)

These will all hit for 1 against r8 mobs. You don’t get the caster’s matk or their attributes :confused:

#5

now i capture my friend’s arrow rain and mine. i just like the ability to copy skill. btw @bramia, yesterday i debuting my dg 290, i got obliterated easily eventhough my pdef is 1000+. how come? i dont think it is magic because i got hit at melee range for 4-10k dmg

#6

I’m rogue3 too. My build is ran2 scout rog3 and end of this event i ll get mergen. I advice you to pick mergen. Mer has more aoe since rogue is really lack of it and it’s can autoswap to use backstab. i also wanted to be hacka, a melee archer because it look fun and suit with rogue. Aber after investing, i found out that hacka really weak, it’s only have dash and sword attribute, skills are weak. About rogue u should have high str and some con. Just 1 point into burrow, no more, it’s just give crit rate for skill, say no to vendetta, 2-5 point for capture, lachrymator is good, should have at least 1 point. The rest up to u

#7

after i become mergen i found out that it is better to stick with 2h bow. if i use xbow and then use arrow rain, sometimes it got cancelled because of weapon swapping