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Double EXP event bug

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#83

It still doesn’t change the fact that it’s the header.

Again, changing a few texts doesn’t actually change the whole design.

You re-used a double exp weekend event page, added in a text because you’d like to try using an NPC instead.

Again, this could be seen as a lie more than enough because of the updated event at a later point AND the fact that they probably didn’t put the talt requirement because they didn’t know. Another miscommunication, which could also be said for 50% instead of 100%.

The person who copied the 100% event post could be very well aware that it’s double EXP. The event manager or dev might only want 50%, or 100% but misplaced as 50%. which lead to this disaster.

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#84

If only, maybe it would be worth it then. But since cost keeps increasing, it doesn’t seem to be something you want to use on multiple characters.

Also, nice dialogue/title for the Kupole npc imc :tired:

But again, it’s only 50% exp, I’m not even mad.

#85

Let me be direct now here.

Sure, I agree with you. Since the start actually, not sure if you noticed read the “Agreed.” on my second reply to you.

But miscommunication isn’t a lie. And this is why I keep answering. You’re overestimating an issue and actually contradicting yourself.

It all depends on the order. You have your opinion about 100% being the intended one.

I have my opinion about the 50% being the intended one.

And I have already said why I think that and I’ll repeat it.

Only the copy-pasted parts from last week are saying double or 100%. The new parts of the announcement says simply “Bonus EXP”.

They even actually fixed the announcement about it and apologized about.

This makes me think the value that was put on code is correct. After all, typing 50 is very different from typing 100. It isn’t like a mistake of a missing 0 or extra 0. They most likely intentionally typed 50 when coding the event.

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Btw, if you look closely. It actually shows some text. Seems we didn’t get the translation file update we were supposed to >_<

#86

The miscommunication itself wasn’t the lie.

It’s the lie about them making the mistake, apologized and saying that it was intended.

What’s that mistake I was talking about? It’s supposed to be 100% and not 50, but was placed as 50 instead.

Yes I’ve read that part. Point is, you believe in 50, I believe in 100.

Design flaw or not:
1 - Headline.
2 - Picture.
3 - Important Message saying double.

Nothing else said 50%. Bonus EXP is Bonus EXP, not 50%, a different text could mean anything, no point can be taken here, only the fact that they used bonus exp instead of 100.

Reused or not, double was announced for quite a while now. They didn’t know? Apologized? Okay, gotta do it right to fix the problem, not cover it up with this edited announcement (which you believe to be true…, I don’t)

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#87

Yeah, and about that we can either agree to disagree.

Or we continue discussing and fall here:
A) The event is designed to have 50% bonus exp.
B) The event is designed to have 100% bonus exp.

No way to prove either of them and seems we can’t agree to disagree. Nor agree for it to be unknown or impossible to know.

It’s called argument from ignorance:

We can simply stop trying to judge the situation since we lack data but you, for some reason, seems to want to convince everyone of your point regardless of anything else.

#88

Yes, not convinced? Sure, go ahead.

I’m simply saying that’s what I believe it to be. Did I force anyone to believe me? You choose what you want to believe.

My stand is still here, there’s still this false advertisement/announcement going on.

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#89

And same, I’m just expressing my opinion:

Only the copy-pasted parts from last week are saying double or 100%. The new parts of the announcement says simply “Bonus EXP”.

And saying why I think about it.

Previous week:
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Current week:
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For me it’s pretty clear that the problem is in the announcement that was copy-pasted from previous week and that’s the event was designed to be what it is now, 50%.

#90

???

Okay…?

You’re just repeating what you’ve said.

#91

I know, I’m just repeating what I said just like you repeat what you said.

You think it’s 100%.

I think it’s 50%.

My stand is still here, there’s an apologize and update on the announcement, thus no more error or false advertising when it comes to 50% vs 100% since they’ve already given their position about it.

We can keep repeating ourselves all the day. Is it worth it though?

#92

Hence the thread and the discussion, and the angry players.

Also their decision making in apologizing.

You are already used to repeating yourself, I don’t see a difference.

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#93

It is not the first time anyway.

GM posted the event page on February 12th and edited on February 17th only when people complained about it.

Are you serious? No one in IMC team even tried the event before ?

I’m a web developer and my job is not to code some stuff only, it is also to test it before pushing on production.

Are you telling me they don’t event do that ? Stop hiring Internship please, it is not possible to do those mistake in a job, you get fired assap because it is not the first time

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#94

Actually, even updated, the announcement is still wrong, it didn’t said the exp is only for 1h, it says that all characters will have the buff and lastly it didn’t said that it requires exponentially talt fees.

Does this lunarrabbit work for imc? because it is incredible how it blindly defends misleading advertisements.

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#95

Sorry but like I said. The current topic and the current discussion is about 50% vs 100%.

If you want to discuss further, you can PM me to discuss it privately with me but this gets nowhere, or report it (better) in a separate thread, or continue discussing here, making it clear it’s another topic for discussion.

Please do not mix one thing with another. I’ve already said in previous post in this very same thread to report the other errors related to the event.

And please note that I’m not defending IMC.

It’s not because I agree that issues exist that I need to agree with your ways nor overestimate them like you did.

I just like to be neutral and talk about real things.

To talk about imaginary issues, maybe you could make a group conversation and daydream there with who’s interested.

#96

Lunar rabbit is a GM :smiley:

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#97

I wish. I wouldn’t need to be reporting these guys:

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Lots of time to the point I gave up farming there during those days. lol

#98

Now people that wants DOUBLE EXP WEEKEND to have DOUBLE EXP are overestimating them. It doesn’t matter for the consumer what was intended or not, nobody reads “double exp weekend with bonus exp” and thinks it is going to be 50% exp for an hour. 50% vs 100% is a useless discussion as can be seen in all the forum posts

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#99

I agree. Don’t worry. I’m talking only about people who are mixing in different things to their complaints and making it something else bigger that includes a lot of things, that also includes things from the past and even more, that are actually overestimating it. lol

#100

Is LunarRabbit an IMC Staff mole-agent.

I just read the whole discussion between Lostac and Lunar…
You don´t have to be a major in merchandising or publicity to know what a “false advertisement” is.

Nevertheless… if the mistake was done why did IMC did not saw such mistake up until launching day? That is just plain poor and mediocre management, which cannot be fixed by a simple “We are sorry”.

I don´t know how it is in other jobs but if in a kitchen you fu+k up, you´re gone and get your ass replaced. Now, a mistake that has clearly triggered some major discontent and puts in evidence, yet again, the poor and “unprofessional” (almost) management of a big company… most certainly cannot be fixed by just respectfully bow down and ask for forgiveness.

A “respond team” must always be ready with a protocol to follow for situations like this one. And if LunarRabit is the “respond team” then… i only hope coming patch comes nice and clean.

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#101

Quick question: So how should it be fixed then? What do you want them to do if you say that apologizing and fixing isn’t enough?

Sorry but I really have nothing to do with IMC.

Now, second quick question.

What would you do if you saw that a co-worker did a mistake then every other person in your department starts saying their mistakes is fault of that person (but in truth, it isn’t)?

Then it’s your time to talk to people who might fire him.

From your position I guess you’ll just blame some random faults on person as well and say “It’s not my problem, whatever”, right?

Because that’s the only thing I’m complaining about here. It isn’t about IMC being wrong or about mistakes happening.

I’m complaining about others trying to increase the mistake for whatever reason they have :woman_shrugging:

#102

Stop embarrassing yourself.

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