Hello, Savior
What better way to doppel r9?
Hello, Savior
What better way to doppel r9?
If you have highlander in your build then it is probably shinnobi, adding some good burst to your build with 5x crown+moulinet.
Better way for doppel now is sword c3 - highlander c3 and doppel c3
I would say something like Swordman3>Highlander2>Shinobi>Doppel3
For Double Slash and Crown+Moulinet combo with Clones.
Would be cool but needs Barbarian for Cleave ~
Well, I guess it will not be a problem, most of the strong Doppels of my server do not have Barbarian in their build, they use Sword2>Highlander3
strong Doppels , C2 swordman instead of barbarian c1

IDK why, but according to some of them they prefer more seconds to pain barrier cuz they already do the cap damage without barb cleave debuff.
Unless you can cap damage with your Skyliner as well (doubt it), Barb c1 will always be superior to sword c2.
Even if you can cap damage with Skyliner, Barb c1 will still make your individual Cyclone hits stronger
There’s pretty much no scenario where sword c2 is stronger than barb c1 in PVE at this point.
Not only that, regarding Doppel abilities, beside Zhornau (which is a fake multi hit, so it’s easy to cap damage with), I really doubt any swordman on any server, can hit the cap damage with Redel, which is the stronger Doppel ability right now… with or whitout Cleave, we are talking about 555k *14 Hits (with attribute) here… 
Also, with the introduction of Gazing Golem cards, having a high level Pain barrier in your build isn’t mandatory currently.
I have a Sword2Barb3Doppel3 myself, with 2x Gazing cards level 10, and with my LVL 10 Pain Barrier + 2 from Durandal + 1 from Divine Might I find having 27 seconds of PB is already overkill, since you really need it only when the fight starts: during the fight (if the Boss isn’t dead in 20 seconds yet) you have surely procc’ed your Gazing Golem cards off Boss or Boss’ adds hits, atleast once, so you’re good to go!
Cleave is really a no brainer, you have no reason to skip +50/100 crit rate on hit and + Slash damage (basically every skills in your kit) on target. 
so sword c1 barb c3 - highlander c2 - doppelc3 its a good way for doppel? remember warcry guys gives physycal damage and debuff extend, sorry for my bad inglish i am a brasilian player in SA - silute.
If you PvP
Swordsman C1, Highlander C3, Barbarian C1, Corsair C1, Doppel 3 is pretty good.
Or
Swordsman C1 Highlander C2, Barbarian C2, Corsair C1, Doppel 3
OR my per favorite
Swordsman C1, Highlander C3, Cosair C1, Doppel C3, Shinobi
It doesn’t have Barbarian unfortunately, but with Shinobi you can set up an easy Hook + Cyclone combo using substitution, with maxed out cyclone that’d be pretty decent, on top of that you get the Shadow Clone Highlander for PvE or if you got the shadow clones set up in advance and everything goes well for you (super unlikely) you can do it in PvP instead of cyclone.
This is my humble opinion ofc, but…
Giving up barb1 for highlandrr c3 is a huge mistake, the cleave slash debuff will give waaaay more dmg to your shinolander combo than those 5 extra points into moulinet.
And pvp with doppel is kinda hard atm, shields are too god at pvp to pass, unless you have godlike gear.
doppel for tbl is very bad atm … the only cc that we have is consair chain.
i think giving up vertical slash is too much , so would still prefer hl c3.
sw3-barb3-dop3 , you got stronger buff and double slash , for joy stick user like me i don’t need to many attack skill
if you play doppel pvp you are doing it wrong
im doing sw3> barb3 > doppel 3 or if i have a chance to reset mine its gonna be s1> high3> barb 1 > doppel 3 > shinobi
hl3 > barb 3 ( no hard feeling )
mostly everyone will go for that path, barb 2 or other class do not provide much compare to shinobi.
i only need 1 more team level to reach the lvl 13. any good swrd 1 > hl3 > barb1 > dopp 3 builds?