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1. Question from M.izu: You forget to mention âPandaâ in this screen shot, that pyromancer who was deplyoing that fire pillar, fire ground for us âtestâ and report capture to IMC.
Also, that pyromancer running is the owner of the screenshot, who help us test that thing, and he know, and speak for himself, a member of my guild right Kimmy? Who are you trying to use to make things against me.
Answer in the text: His (former Hydrarium player) explanation:
"Iâm just doing this (sending me the SS) because I hate hypocrisy"
I HATE HYPOCRISY
"They were doing the following: 2 rogues - Myrtariniel and Betavap, 2 chronos to use âpassâ on the rogues and warlock - Myz and Shuheii, 3 damage dealers - SoX (magic arrow), DragonSea and Nekomancer (warlocks).
The party kept taking turns (chronos and damage dealers) to give pass to the rogues, and when pass was on Cooldown, they would leave the party and the warlocks would enter the party and use their skills on the ground (to be captured)."
p.s: please note the quotation marks. The text inside the quotation marks are (surprise!) quotes.
1.1: Question from M.izu: You want proof for that test? Look the time of the game in SS, and look this video, that mirtis took like 7 hours to kill
Answer from me: You usually test a bug and then exploit it a hundred times?
2. Question from M.izu: Also, Iâve called members of Empire to help, you can ask they.
Answer from me: probably the same people who went to Hydrarium after Empire disbanded, right?
3. Question from M.izu: About Marnox, high end game players know about that boss, we was the first to kill Marnox, cuz we know first than people, that boss was receiving debuffs, so we have videos to proof, that boss can be stoped and killed easily
Answer in the text: The last SS, clearly, theyâre using Raise on Marnox, to easily kill him. ALTHOUGH NOT CONSIDERED A BUG OR EXPLOIT, it shows the character of Hydrarium.
3. Question from M.izu: But if you donât know about that thing, and donât wanna tell for all here, where you got that screenshots.
Answer in the text: p.s1: will probably get A LOT of hate, but please notice that i did not raged or insulted anyone, so please, keep it cool.
Also, answer from me: I dindât mention the person who sent me the SS because he asked me to.
**4. Question from M.izu:**Everytime you guys wanted to make people hate us more, everytime you guys fail, because we did so much things first than people, we did so much reports about that skill, later i post here the SS of reports.
Answer in the text(again): p.s2: Learn to differentiate, EVIDENCE is not accusation, in fact what is against Hydrarium is only evidence, and heading over this, it has to have an inquiry, but it must to be done from someone inside the company (IMC), and once thereâs a proof, turn it into accusation and in base with the same proof comes the CONVICTION, the other fact is until now the company doesnât seem to give a ââ â â â â about such EVIDENCES nor made any proper inquiry.
Do you know how to read, M.izu? Can you read the text BEFORE âreplyingâ?
a fellow Savior,
Kim
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So sorry,
I donât read that images yay.
Well, nice tried, but we killed that boss with hands, later i post here our reports and appeals for the IMC okay?
About marnox, update yourself
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1. Question from M.izu: Well, nice tried, but we killed that boss with hands, later i post here our reports and appeals for the IMC okay?
Answer/question from me: You usually test a bug and then exploit it a hundred times?
also
Answer in the text(again): p.s2: Learn to differentiate, EVIDENCE is not accusation, in fact what is against Hydrarium is only evidence, and heading over this, it has to have an inquiry, but it must to be done from someone inside the company (IMC), and once thereâs a proof, turn it into accusation and in base with the same proof comes the CONVICTION, the other fact is until now the company doesnât seem to give a ââ â â â â about such EVIDENCES nor made any proper inquiry.
2.Question from M.izu: About marnox, update yourself
Answer in the text: The last SS, clearly, theyâre using Raise on Marnox, to easily kill him. ALTHOUGH NOT CONSIDERED A BUG OR EXPLOIT, it shows the character of Hydrarium.
Answer from me: Do you understand when i say that itâs not a bug or exploit? I know it was how it worked, I know he was receiving debuffs, i just said that Hydrarium used a mechanic in-game that WAS NOT MEANT TO WORK like that. And that this kind of attitude shows THE LACK OF CHARACTER THAT HYDRARIUM REPRESENTS throughout the server.
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Kinda hard to argue when the guy can barely read/write in English. All his statements were due poor language knowledge 
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Totally agreed huahuahuahua
NĂŁo vi a arma +27 no post lĂĄ em cima.
Iâll give my view on Hydrarium,
- Myz is a player who is dedicated with his guild, was praised as the most active player in the server, when the GM Papaya! came to interview the Myz, he could have used the interview to speak well of your guild, instead he spoke of all exploits, problems in GvG, FPS that all suffer.
- I came to forrum with his support, saying that would show all the weapons and asked the IMC to investigate all our accounts.
- Iâve watched your Streams and he always responds to all, without hiding anything.
In short, the Myz to my eyes seems to be a player with plenty of character. On the use of skills in World Boss, I am in favor of the use of any skill except broken skill as Capture.
However I am against AFK farming:
- Pet
- Holders Z
- Sorcerer
- Necromancer
I am against because winning AFK money is game break. A AFK Farmer called Sapinho did alot money doing AFK farm in Dina Bee you can check his name in Klaipeda, and with money you can do alot in this game.
Also check my comments on skills here.
Many people who comment on this post, has no courage to show their chars in the game, I want to see weapons and ingame name of all who complain in this post.
vocĂȘ acha, mas nĂŁo Ă©.
Aceite, dĂłi menos
Seriously?!
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Iâm flagging this thread and never coming back. I hope you guys do it the same because the discussion will never end. -never
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After that comment, I will flag too.
My turn!
Hi, my name is Seven, I follow Tree of Savior even before you knew it existed, participated in all closed tests and still playing.
Let me tell a storyâŠ
Iâm Mizuâs(Myz) oldest friend in tos, we met at lvl70, two solo players that decided to player together since we were fast as f**k in doing everything, later we met Sox, Myr and Yushua (not playing for now). We had a party named Genei Ryodan and the five of us kept the party and ended the game (no more content to do). We killed first Dullahan, Marionette, Mine Loader, donât remeber if there was others, made the firsts +15 weapons on the server.
After the official release we were playing together again and we expected nothing more. Happens that we meet other hard players like us, resulting in the birth of the guild.
I personally donât mind calling me hacker/exploiters, Iâve been called that in a lot of games, gives me pleasure knowing other people envy me to the point to accuse me of hacking. One of my points is that this topic is not the WORDS of the Hydrairum guild, itâs Dreifhâs words, heâs a nice guy and he fights hard for a better server. We have some member who agree with afk farmers ;), we are not a perfect happy family, we have fights, we have problems with members. I can say I donât trust all of my guild, Itâs hard to identify with 28 different people, I have no clue if this member I donât know much has ever used hack or bot, he might and Iâll never know just like in your guild might happen.
My personal opinion about exploit:
Itâs only exploit when the benefits you get from it are above moral levels, exemples:
-Glitching a monster to not move, when any monster targets your pet, remove it, the monsters AI will forever attack that empty spot, once you get itâs aggro he will unglitch. This is a bug in the game that I donât give a f**k, but I did my part and send IMC a ticket requesting for fix.
-Use Raise skill in boss monster, it wonât work, then use reversi from Thaumaturge, Raise will work on boss monsters and make them fly (2x missile damage). This is a bug I consider above moral levels, you can get a lot of advantage in many ways on many situations. This bug was dicovered by us, reported, and has been fix.
If the game have bugs, itâs the companyâs job to deal with the situation, I want bug abuser to be banned, but itâs not my call.
Thatâs one of the main differences, we do not accuse others for they doings.
Example:
-The +12 Aias full potential, of course we joked between us like âwow hacks and stuffâ but what can we do except for taking the owners word. (Congratulations on the shield btw.)
-Player âqwerthcâ (reborn member) , shouting monster gems. We have a video with 15min duration of him boting at Demon Prison. I can defame him as much as I want for the time I want, will it help? nope, report is open and he is not banned yet.
This post have over 2.2k viwes and only 65 participants, itâs a fight between 10 members of Hydrarium and 55 people which is trying to defame the guild. (not counting the ones saying âfight, fight, fightâ)
We can easly say 2.1k has seen the thread, nice⊠2.5% of the server are a mix of jealous noobs, boters, hackers, afk farmers.
For the
Jeaulous noobs:
First of all, WEAPONS⊠OMG OMG +15 hacks!!
Do you know what DPK is? Search.
Iâve been aware of dpk in tos since I discovered the world bosses that would only spawn If I persist on the ch killing it monsters over and over. IMC like this kind of mechanics, basically in everything I do in this game, Iâm couting on the dpk system even if there is none, that includes changing maps and waiting over a day just for 1 upgrade on my weapons.
Do you ever refined an item on ragnarok to +9?
Letâs compare the refinement table:
Ragnarok +9 -> 0,384%
ToS +9 -> 27,538%
Wow, thatâs easy! Letâs see which refinament in ToS is equivalent:
Ragnarok +9 -> 0,384%
Tos +15 -> 0.484%
That means⊠+0 to + 15 is more easy than +9 in ragnarok!!
Possible thoughts:
"wow bro, but in ragnarok you could easly have like 40 weapons to refine"
R: Youâre playing privates, get out.
"Itâs expensive to refine that much in ToS"
R: Itâs not, you just donât have patience for it.
DG145 with 3 characters -> 9 runs -> 3kk > 20kk/weak
Consider every 2 refinaments you fail 1 on item with 10 potential, you can fail 10 times, your item is now +15 with 0 pot and it will cost about 13kk
PS: The chance to work with 2/1 success/fail is the same as refine from 1 to +7 in ragnarok.
Boters/Hackers:
Do whatever you want, Iâm reporting you, will soon be banned or quit eventually.
Afk Farmers:
OMG Iâm so intelligent I do nothing and get a lot of dinheiros.
Youâre just lazy and will probably stop playing soon.
Oh, youâre also assholes with the people who wants to grind.
Goodbye
Iâm leaving this thread and letting it fulfill itâs orignial purpose, a letter to IMC about what we think of AFK farmers and HolderZ.
Thank you for showing your opinions and promoting our guild.
Defame us, envy us, report us, will only make us bigger.
Seven - Hydrarium
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Now you are finally getting back to a normal state of conscience.
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âdinheirosâ
Post must be at least 20 temple shooters
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Well,
Just posting this here, I want spmeone show me if have more than me, stopped to kill this boss like 1-2 months ago.
Had like 2 days up killing bosses, to see bullshit of people, all the time in a korean grind game.
As they mentioned before, when PAPAYA came to give me the congratulations of the Guild Battle Event. I told for him about the server and not about my guild or myself.
So, the next patch of that week they rise the money in dungeons. :~
Also, never see âSSGTâ the guild who wanted to be knowed in all games, doing bosses, where are you guys when the debuff was not existing? AFK? Rerolling? Or maybe you guys are so slowly to see how the game works? Since PW, ArcheAge, they have a bad fame for use two or more tags to do things.
Show to me who have passed me in last hits?
Also, show to me who have passed my box? remember i said, stop to kill this boss 1-2 months ago