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Discussion: The PERFECT spear build

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

This can be either 1H or 2H. This will just be a short discussion on what you guys think is the perfect spear build. Let me know your class setup, what kind of build it is (pvp, pve) why you think it’s the best, and what skills you think validate your choice. After debating for quite a while, my personal perfect spear build is this:

(PVE) Swordsman > Highlander > Hoplite C2 > Cataphract > Doppelsoldner > Dragoon

I won’t discuss why in this post because I will be making a full in-depth guide of why I think this is without a doubt the single best PVE spear build you can make as of the current level cap.

#2

Because Cross Guard + Stabbing.
Add spear lunge and DoV.
Not sure why you pick Cataphract, maybe to get 2h spear earlier?
I would get Pel so that you can get things to actually group up and hit you easier when grouping, to activate stagger from Cross Guard.

If no pelt, when surely hexen dropper from corsair would be better than cataphract+dragoon?

SW1 -> HL1 -> HOP2 -> Cor2 -> Dop1

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#3

Personally I don’t like the idea of advancing to lower rank classes.

Boss Slayer (PvE)
Sword > HL/Pelt > Hop3 > Doppel > Dragoon

Hop3 build for pure DPS and bonuses to large/boss monsters.

Tankaphract (PvE)
Sword > Pelt > Hop > Cata3 > Dragoon

Cataphract build. AoE and mobility. Great for questing and dungeons.

Meta Cata (PvP)
Sword3 > Cata3 > Dragoon

PvP Cataphract. Anti-CC and CC with mobility.

#4

Boss Slayer (PvE)
Sword > HL/Pelt > Hop3 > Doppel > Dragoon

Hop3 build for pure DPS and bonuses to large/boss monsters.

i second this… vey good build… but immobile… still fun to play

#5

Only one comment on the highlander choice for cross guard, it requires a TH sword. And with the current state of weapon changing system I highly doubt its viable. Better go for pelt if you plan on going PVE or SW2 for restrain and moar delicious pain barrier

#6

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#7

Rumors has it the debuff from Cross Guard has a hidden synergy (aka bug? :P) with stabbing where it doubles(?) the amount of strikes.

Testing it myself at the moment, cant find a good place to test it…

#8

People do not get baited by OP and post anything about “best spear build” they will just steal all of your ideas and actually in game testing and claim it as their own in there so called guide. Ive seen it happen so many times already.

Just warning you all.

#9

@enrisnvt: That’s a good point, I often forget Cross Guard needs 2H sword.

Hop2>Cor2 dual wield build also makes a lot of sense. But why Doppel over Dragoon, Corsair C3 or Shinobi?

#10

I don’t have problems changing weapons to benefit from the Crossguard debuff on target.But since the setup is a little tricky, IMO, it is more useful on bosses or targets that don’t get extra damage to slash or pierce (as my main only have Cartar Stroke for strike damage). And answering other question about the debuff: Yes! It doubles the number of hits of Stabbing and other pierce skills, it is really pretty to see the numbers flying! :slight_smile:

#11

People do not get baited by OP and post anything about “best spear build” they will just steal all of your ideas and actually in game testing and claim it as their own in there so called guide. Ive seen it happen so many times already.

Yeah I don’t think so. I don’t steal people’s builds. I actually have a mind of my own and still believe in terms of pve that my build can not be bested. Just my personal opinion. But to think I’d use this just to steal builds for a guide, that’s pretty insulting.

#12

Rumors has it the debuff from Cross Guard has a hidden synergy (aka bug? :P) with stabbing where it doubles(?) the amount of strikes.

That’s not a bug. The Cross Guard debuff increases damage plus adds an additional hit dealing lower damage. The debuff does stack with Spear Lunge and I can tell you that the damage increase is not insignificant. I have the exact numbers but I’ll let you test it for yourself. Remember Stabbing is a multi-hit attack so each hit is amplified by the buffs you have and will only count as 1 hit towards their usage if they have that (like concentration) though I have not yet tested it with Double Pay Earn.

#13

Great build, but may I ask why cataphract ? Block penetration/early two-handed spear vs hoplite c3 looks weird, is there also a “hidden” effect behind cross guard and earthwave multi hits ?

#14

I go Cataphract instead of Hoplite C3 simply for mobility and mount bonus stats. Plus Earth Wave is a good knock down. But for the mobility alone I can’t justify giving it up for another 50 crit and a little more damage on Stabbing. As for Earth Wave, there is no effect because Cross Guard only effects pierce attacks.

#15

Dash is 10 movement speed. Mount and trot lv5 is 14 with 20s downtime. In that downtime u will be slower than just dashing.

#16

Well I just did a test running the exact same distance and these were the numbers I got. Keeping in mind my base speed is 33 because of the token.

Walk = 33 = 18.6s
Dash = 43 = 14.4s = +30%
Mount = 37 = 16s = +15%
Trot Lv5 = 47 = 12.9s = +43%

So it turns out movement speed scales perfectly with time. No errors here. Taking a base movement of 1m/sec we can determine that over the length of 1 minute this will be the distance you can cover.

Dash = 78 meters
Mount + Trot Lv5 = 80.2 meters

This does account for Trot’s down time. So while they are nearly identical in terms of distance covered per minute, being mounted with the option to boost your speed with Trot is simpler and consumes a tiny fraction of the stamina of dashing. Though this only covers the movement speed. There’s also the skills and mount stat bonus to take into consideration.

#17

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#18

Couple of issues:

  1. Cyclone can’t be used when mounted so you have to demount every time to cast a spell. Some people have done it, but it’s a hassle considering if your pet gets knocked out there will be a downtime before you can remount.

  2. It’s honestly not worth it to take 1 rank in cata because cata rank 1 is pretty bad. Having played cata 3 i can attest that at rank 1 I feel like i would be better off just dashing. Not to mention Earth wave deals mediocre damage at lvl 5, also not a good knockdown considering it has to be charged. The mount stat bonus is okay, but you are also sacrificing 1 character slot for it, which is not so worth it unless you invest heavily into cata tree.

I would honestly swap out cata for another circle if you’re looking to maximize your dps. The only reason why you want cata is for the mobility, and cata 1 doesn’t offer that.

#19

I have no intention to use Cyclone. I’m getting it, but only because there’s nothing else to spend points on.

#20

can you stack DoV with lapsape mushroom (self-poison consumable)? so i dont need to get hit by boss just to have increased dmg. also if bloodletting (deals 1 dmg every tick) could also stack dov?