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DEX for lvl 330

Hi for archer is good 176 dex for 330? i need sissel bracelet? thx

i’ve counted only 329 base point so all revelation and Statue of Goddess Zemyna will be 200+

is it good for hit 330 cap? i need sissel bracelet for reach the cap?

thx

Class or path bro?

Most archers now are going META “Full dex”.

Current priority is DEX > CON > STR/INT/SPR

It is recommended for you to forecast your “crit rate” than the DEX points itself. 700ish crit rate w archer buffs is “okay”.

Again it depends on your class.

Even with 360 pt in dex and sissel bracelet x 2 you don’t reach 700 w/o archer buff

should be “with” - edited.

ok thx so is 560 cr before swift step

360 dex is 550 raw cr (considerated also cr base of archer) if you have sissel bracelet + astra bow need 260 dex (408 +74 +88)

You can use this as a guide: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/03qhgp0j0f/

She didn’t went pure DEX here but about 48str 30ish Con then rest is Dex.

it’s an A2-R1-Sc1-Fle3-Mergen build. Not sure what is your class tho.

if u don’t have use sissel

u need higher dex (maybe 0 str)

cri stat is more expensive than attack

a bit of con make playing a lot easier

Is not about STR.

Mergen problem is don’t have 0 CD AoE skill for sustain his long CD.

In the archer three there is only one semi-AoE skill that is Crossfire. (i say semi b/c it is restricted to limitated area).

Crossfire is know to be big sp drink skill.

With some info leaked from ToS staff, we can assume mergen will get jump shoot and rapid fire (or rapid shoot i don’t remember exacly the name)

One of the skill is 0 CD but in the skill description there is no AoE ratio or something.

So we really don’t know if Mergen C2 will get 0 CD AoE skill or don’t.

Even if Mergen will get that skill at C2 will have same problem of Crossfire.

(Not restriced area of effect, but already c5 skill is very much SP drink and Rank 9 will be MUCH MUCH MUCH more. The Sp cost in the skill description for rapid fire was insane (around 58 sp for lvl 1 while crossfire lvl 1 is 27)

In anycase, a 0 CD skill will require ALOT of SP.

Cards are total useless for recover SP. Because most of cards work with monster kill, and the few with chance of rec SP while attack a certian type of monster require to be many to be effective. And work example only with 1 kind of monster (Thunder monster or Dark ecc ecc).

So we’re f*cked

TL:TR: Mergen or Fletcher to use 0 cd skills need SP.

sp pot lv15 + keistas potion

fletcher is baby compare to fencer

623 Base Crit Rate

Crit Rate with Swift Step + Chrono’s Quicken: (25% + 25%):

623*.50 = 311 -> 623 + 311 = 934 Crit Rate

(934 - 150) * (42 / 330) = 99.78%

With this you can Crit 100% against 150 crit resist using Swift Step and Quicken.

Taken from Nicola Mergen guide.

This is pretty much the 1st thing you need to know when you do play archer, or any dex class.

I like as well to only consider quicken as a permanet buff couz it is the easier buff to be up 24/7 with your own swift.

That said, playing archer is harder due to itemization then int classes.

To know how much dex u have to invest, you pretty much need to know the gear you are gonna use in advice, which include:

  • sissel VS gladi // phada

  • Red veris gloves VS Vubbe fighters Gloves VS other (mainly people using 4/4 cloth or plate)

  • Max peta

  • practo weapon

plus other rare crit rate gear, like 2 lolo leather peaces (I do only suggest chest/pants couz lolo gloves and boots are horrible compared to windy boots and the 2 gloves I already mentioned) or even solmiki.

If you don’t calculate the right crit rate in advice due to gear, you will either finish with an overkill of crit rate or missing crit rate, costing you a stats reset potion in the end.

That said, the easiest way is to consider 2x sissel + max peta if you have no clue how you are gonna be dressed yet, it is the easiest set up to use and the most common one for sure.

Sissel + max peta bring on table almost same CR as astra bow.

i prefer consider only accessory, that like sissel there will be a 2.0 vers with swift sissel bracelet. (or petamion 2.0 with petralion and future upgrade?)

Astra bow is 88 CR but is very much over the average of CR that other bows provide so consider this can be good or a mystake. is gamble b/c in rank 9 there can be powerfull bow with no CR or DEX at at all.

About crit vs 150 Crit resist may be useless b/c we have skills like zalciai.

this not depend on gear, but on situation you plan to play.

i just wanted the number for the Crit Rate required for 100% crit vs 0 CRes.

thx anyway

event potion can’t be taked in consideration.

About fencer are you sure ? Crossfire lvl 15 is 90 SP and 0 CD skill.

Rapid fire is 58 Base +10 lvls of upgrade. this can go for 100~120 (enanche +12 SP x use) SP+ usage x skill.

Are you sure fencer use more SP? are you sure lvl 15 SP pot is Enought?

From what i’ve see SP pot lvl 15 is not enought but i can be wrong.

A lot of players still do uphill defense everyday with their main so they can stack keista level 2/3.

I can’t consider gear that is not here yet if I want to min/max.

Atm I’m considering lolo 2 peaces, silver hawk, max peta (I do go with vubble gloves and gladiators for aoe stacking, but that’s an off meta choice even for an SR like me :stuck_out_tongue: )

If I will have to move out from lolo or silver hawk I will pretty much have to use a reset potion, but at least I didn’t have to reroll stats before new contest will hit my face xD

As I said, the most conservative way is prob to go with sissel 2x and max peta only in the calculation, I can’t deny that.

You will plan a build considering expansive consumable item with a limited number of way to be aquired daily?

i don’t thx. don’t want to go mad for provide me pots i need for don’t run out of SP.

So if you wan’t really to Min/Max wait to r10 or you will keep reroll for nothing.

Untill we have all rank/gear/ bla bla no sense in min max.

Ok, I will be back at playing ToS when we will have full R10 contest. Thx for the advice.

Nah you can play now farm silver increase attry. Save blessed shard. Don’t waiste them.

About min max when we will have r10 we can consider it.

Why min max if ATM major difference come with weapon transcendence?

ATM min/max means almost nothing.

You have Ranger C1 SC1 Other guy have Ranger C2 that is 5% more dmg.

But the guy nr 2 have also transcendence lvl 8 while guy 1 lvl 7.

This is where go min max now. For ranks, for items, for everything.

i’m going with full dex
bcoz it’s easier to optimize i need less cri rate stat from item
some ppl optimized cri rate for when they party with priest or/and chrono
i don’t want to rely on chrono, sometimes i want to solo i higher cri rate
i have more choice on gear with full dex
i can use glass bracelet for mdef/block pene, rhevisan for mdef/dark res/hp
sissel for dps, phada for dps/aoe atk

if u want to be compititive that mean your are going to be a full dps with party support
u need to plan your stat to party composition
chrono is 1 of every party so 600+ without buff is good
have priest?? +str -dex and many other factor

if u are playing with pt u doesn’t really need crossfire for dps
if u have linker, let them link then magic arrow