wow really? so it’s a total of 4 hits at maximum level. man I’m really gonna ditch DoV on my Doppel, maybe make a skill based one and invest on attributes.
I just hope it’s not another fake-multi hit like the two new skills.
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I saw it on that kr Doppel who has +18 twin blade during his grind session.
theres a time he used zornhau, and it hits 30k 4 times.
here is the vid
http://blog.naver.com/king_sop/220804858298
around 017 is the 1st one he used it.
Also Punish:Earthquake seems to do broken dmg too.
his lv1 Punish can 1 shot those 250k Mobs
thanks for the vid. something to think about. 
do you have info if the weapon is transcended as well?
but Punish requires an enemy to be knocked down right? too bad it can’t be used against bosses. but still seems good for mobbing if it’s that broken.
yes, trans stage 4. 100%dmg
well, 1 point for aoe farming or aoe grind is not bad imo.
exp, if you just take attribute for zornhau zucken redel, then reset skill to lower the skill level so you can take other skills.
its aoe like 3/4 of your screen
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I’m probably maxing all damage skills of doppel and seriously skipping out DoV. never liked that skill 
thanks anyway
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after watch those clip closely
Punish seem to dead 5+ dmg line per unit
thats insane damage there!
Yo, that cyclone is hitting faster/second than our version, like 1.5x faster. And Bash+Punish looks sick for ET, like seriously, we’ll smoke F1 in a matter of seconds.
Great videos @jordyrein thanks for sharing.
Can’t see clearly, but I have high hope that it’s true. The cyclone does seem faster, could it be that they squeezed more number of hits per sec rather than adding duration (i.e 7sec at lv.15) in later patch? Bcs that’d be a better idea lol.
it’s probably their ping. ktos have far better ping than us. I noticed whenever I’m lagging, my cyclone hits really few, something to do with our client sending data to the server, so when I’m having ping spikes, it’s sending data much much slower hence the few hits. though I’m not entirely 100% sure about this. I saw at another thread that their ping ranges from 0.03 to 0.05, much far from my 0.08 to 1.8, and ping spikes of about 5-8
u know if this works? cus if it work we will be able to get all atributes and DOV at the same time
it is work.
i had 1 of my swordsman with lv1 bash and knock down attribute.
just hope IMC wont fix it when the R8 come
yeah, this would make our point distribution a lot more viable
Maybe DOV just isn’t meant to be maxed in non-glass cannon builds?
Well, while powerful, the new abilities are made mainly for people who didn’t get either a Highlander or a Barbarian in their build, as a kind of replacement for the third cirlcle skills. If you have either, they’re pretty much redundant
well if you build dex doppel, dov 15 is a must.
PA wont touch you anyways with 1k evasion.
MA, well everyone dies from magic. even rodelero after slither they just die.
It’s up to a person choice how much stacks or refresh rate they want DOV to be.
It’s a personal Risk VS Reward kind of thing. In solo situation.
Either way DOV won’t affect magic damage taken.
Since it’s purely take account to - Physical defense only.
It gave too much PD/overall damage to the point that not taking it make you looks… funny in a sense.
Anyway often it is counteract with their best girl/ghey friends call Clerics. So DOV 5-15 which ever the case you are gonna to need it. This is like a permanent glass mole card up. With side effects of course. Often patch up by you know what. Invincibility
Hi there, i would certainly disagree with that, i’m a str build, damage wise, i could even outdamage Ele3 under certain condition. 15k per skyliner is a meh… im doing 20k per tick at cyclone, which is more than 3 times damage per second in DPS.
But i do agree with you that full str doppel is a pain when there is no healer.
Btw my build is HL1>Barb3>Dop1>Shinobi, most of my Dop attribute not even past 60%
not sure on the str vs dex debate, but this is true, there is no instance where doppel will be better than lancer or dragoon c2 for that matter in pvp.
well ofc you do, ele 3 is an aoe dps class and aoe dps isn’t as strong as single target dps.
Unless ofc you get a falconer with it or full aoe ratio gear.
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Currently a Full dex Dopp 2 (level 230)
Currently I have around 19k HP and 800 evasion (with guardian)
- I could probabbly get more with shade set and leather mastery but I prefer plate armor for the HP bonus
Current build: sw3 - pelt - barb -dopp2
With Cyclone lvl 10 I hit evac mobs (the cloth ones) around 8-10k per crit (with slash debuff) (attribute:50) (Vienie Twin Blade)
Thoughts
- Pain Barrier and Restrain allow me to cyclone without fear (until restrain goes on CD)
- My damage is quite low but I believe it will pay off with higher weapons but it won’t be soon (I believe rank 9 or 10 weaps). Dopp has quite low base damage so it really relies on str or overupgraded weapon
- Hard to stack DoV stacks against bosses but easy vs mobs as a lot of them deal magic damage.
- Too many mobs in this game have knockdowns to cancel cyclone.
Current verdict: Str is still better as Restrain can usually take care of the melee mobs. Magic will still hit you and some mobs have such high accuracy that it requires you to invest too much in evasion that you’ll sacrifice surivability vs magic mobs.(I believe dex will pay off but not until r9-r10)
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this person has 385 dex, 218 str, and no con. sw1 hl2 barb2 doppel3. killed tree boss in 9 seconds or so.