that was mine, im making that vid to compare akisera vid.
that 8k crit without dov stack. around 11k crit with dov stack, and 12k with skull swing + dov. (at that time lv 50 attribute)
his attribute on cyclone was 60. in tos INA, cleave +50% slash debuff hasnt been implemented yet. soon in next major update.
your thoughts on damage difference between STR / DEX?
letās not talk about having parties or supports because different scenario will bring different result.
Let alone your own experience, damage wise, how far does STR damage do over DEX?
a matter of White damage over Yellow damage. forget about the rate as of now.,
What 2h sword would you guys prefer for DEX heavy dopple? magi or vienie twin blade?
both are good but i am prefer vienie twin blade
Magi if you need that extra aoe attack ratio.
Vienie is better for everything else.
Better raw
Better Crit attack
3 slots
Magi have free 30 crit rate base too so itās technically a free lv 6 gem?
Magi has 2 slots, vienie has 3
Vienie becomes better at crit rate once you see that
only if you go pass x 3 lv 7 gems @_@ which most of us wonāt and will leave it at 7
Just put 3 level 6 gems then?
Itās now better than a magi, and level 6 gems are very easy to make.
dat will lead to a 2 additional crit rate which technically donāt really matter lol.
Either way magi will have 1+1 more pot to compensate it with. Though vienie twin blade base are better.
Guess eventually goes out to how much you are investing on it
thatās the point, everything on vienie is just better except 1 aoe ratio, even with item transcendence.
you can also just put 3 level 5 green gems, slightly lower crit rate, but better overall.
my +8 magi is equal to an unenhanced vienie. (also looks better than magi 
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Where do u get vienie twin again?
190/200 dungeon iirc
I suggest buying the recipe, it should be cheap. 50k-100k in telsiai
Havenāt seen any, maybe not implemented yet here. Thereās only vienie koperon sword. Been spamming 200 dung for ages with my party, countless mana-mana total, no such vienie sword yet.
On Klaipeda, the recipe itself is very cheap, I bought one at 18k.
Iāve already bought and crafted one already. it was really cheap and Iād say well worth the price, bought it around 75k.
Iāll provide you a screenshot when I get home. btw, Iām on Tels server.
make it + to 8 9 10 is pretty hard i fail several times and leave it at +8 potential 4/10 
Then itās not available yet in my server (INA), otherwise it would be everywhere. Why is it so terribly cheap tho, easy drop from 200 dungeon cube?
make it to +9 +8 is about 3mil+ lol, it cheap but upgrade it is in another level even socket is expensive as ā ā ā ā
