Tree of Savior Forum

Desperation to Play

i just wanna ask, why did you guys keep playing if you’re in Agony playing it.

it lags.
lots of bots.
unbalanced class.
random disconnect.
weird market system.
dungeon leecher unavoidable.
dead server.
and many many more.

why did you guys force yourself to keep playing?

“why did you guys force yourself to keep playing?”
Hope.

Nowadays there are so many games coming out that just end up failing hard for various reasons, mainly because of p2w and lacking/unbalanced content. Here’s hoping tos doesn’t go that route.

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This.

20 characters < I only just realised why people keep putting this on their replies lol.

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Dead server? It ain’t even f2p yet. lmao

I have seen a lot of people complain, but somehow I havent had any issues so far. Im lvl 145 healer, playing 1-2hrs per day and sure I have seen bots which did not really impact my gameplay since there several channels and im patient with quests etc.
Most people just like to be butthurt all the time.
I have seen people with 400 hrs on record comment that this game is bad/not worth it and its just like gtfo please.

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A game having a rocky start doesn’t mean it’s a bad game. The game has a lot of potential, and I want to stick through it else I feel I’d regret it later on down the road.

“it lags.” – we’re online. some lag is simply unavoidable. it’s hardly a problem if you play on a server with a reasonable population in the correct region for you.

“lots of bots.” – and? IMC is working on it, it’s getting better, and honestly, it’s not like they really affect things that much.

“unbalanced class.” – and? PvP is hardly even a thing to begin with, so what does it matter if one class isn’t balanced to another?

“random disconnect.” – then you need better internet.

“weird market system.” – just because -you- disapprove doesn’t mean it’s actually weird. maybe it needs fine-tuning, but mostly what it needs is to be running for a few months.

“dungeon leecher unavoidable.” – ever thought of doing something -besides- the dungeons then?

“dead server.” – mhmm, yep, that’s such a big problem. oh no, there aren’t a lot of people out stealing the spawns, and i can farm as much as i want. (just wait till every server is packed to the gills for several weeks after f2p launch, and we’ll think back to what a wonderful time this was.)

“and many many more.” – you haven’t even scored decent hits with the points you already suggested. i can’t imagine how laughably trivial the points you lump together into a bundle must be.

we’re playing because we enjoy the game. if -you- hate it so much, why are you lingering around the forums just to bash on it, instead of moving on to something else?

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i’ve seen all of your answer so basically it’s hope that keeps you around.

some people tries really hard to argue or bash what i stated with obvious facts but yeah let them be. so the main point is aside from the healer which has 0 problem with the game you guys are hoping that the game will get better over time, wish i can break the ice for you and tell everyone what’s going to happen to ToS from inside information.

but since i can’t i really hope you guys are enjoying the game enough to wait a long time.

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no, it would be “hope” if i was -waiting- for the game to become better.

i’m enjoying playing the game as-is.
like i said, if you aren’t enjoying the game as it is now, then go play something else for a few months or a year. come back when the game has “matured” some, and grown out of its awkward starting period.

I’ve still yet to see a dungeon leecher

i’ve only run one dungeon once, so far… and i FELT like a dungeon-leecher… but that was more because i felt like a total noob rather than because i was actually being leechy.

I dont lag, but i do get fps lag on world boss. Hardly notice bots tbh, so idk if there really is as many as u claim. Unbalanced class? You pick class 7 times, soon to be 10… Pick correct then. Random dc? Yeah, about 1 month ago. Market system is fine now that we can put up 10 items, but 48 h is horrible still yeah. Never had dungeon leechers, and I usually just solo them (machine gun archer build). Don’t think servers are dead, still 20k peak on players… “many many more” isn’t really a point.

whoa. what level are you? I think I’d get stuck at the gaps if I didn’t run dungeons HAHA I’m like only alive at the 215-220 gap because of missions/dungeons.

(though I have had some horrible experiences with dungeons and basically dropped them after the 190 one. leechers, rude people, bad players, bad sports, even a bot one time, etc.)

On topic: it’s because I like the game at its core and not every game out there can provide what tos provides. I don’t want to say that it’s all I need to stick around, since that’s a bad example for mmo companies, but I’ve dealt with some reaaally terrible companies in the past so I suppose I’m desensitized to it a little?

I got to say though, community is such a huge aspect for me that I would have dropped the game or at least had become an infrequent player once I hit late game and realized there’s nothing to find there, for now. Coupled with terrible optimization, weird spawns, weird choices via the company, yeah. The only thing mitigating this for me is that I have dedicated friends playing this game. I’m really banking on the f2p crowd to bring something interesting to the table. The CBTers seemed to have a good time with each other, I guess I expected too much in that regard.

Plus community takes time to develop. I guess tos is just uh slow?

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Seems to me that you’re enjoying sh*tposting on the forums more than playing the game.

that is so true but please, don’t bash him. i’m done with debate threads, this thread is pure question which is why i dodge all the rage bullet and answer calmly.

@Darumy you’re the only honest person here.

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lol yea, most of my characters are not actually that high. my best is only 82 so far.
it’s really the fact that i have 9 of them that slows me down… -cough-…

somehow though, my playstyle just seems to skip the 50 dungeon, even though based on that 1 run, i realize i really shouldn’t.

and yea, my reasons for staying are similar.
i’m content with what ToS is right now – given the conditions that it’s barely over a month since launch, and IMC is actively working on it.
i see a lot of potential for later, especially as IMC improves the game.
and IMC as a company is actually quite open, responsive, and communicative with its players, especially compared to most other companies of similar size.

and i’ll agree again; especially on the forums, i see very little of a sense of “community”… just a lot of people crying to have the game tailored to their personal preferences. but again, it’s only just over a month, and we haven’t even had f2p, so it’s still in the awkward “growing” stages.

says the guy asking for recommendations of which gold-sellers to use?

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It would be better if IMC “leak” more info about new contents and classes just like LoL and PBE, so we can keep playing while planning new builds and set new goals.

Although I know they are working hard, but don’t like how they always keep quiet like this.

dead server.

Meanwhile in Telsiai



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i think their quietness on the subject is because they would prefer to let the players explore it, and learn for themselves the ins and outs of new classes.

…i mean, aside from being flooded with all the business of getting the servers started.

I think exactly the same way, for SA players we should remeber the recent server stability issue where IMC’s staff basically abandoned us to our own luck. Actually Sillute is FULL as HELL, yeah, HELL is the world, no one can have a enjoiable grind even at 3 AM, because it seems there are more players than mobs, and i just don’t want to imagine the f2p experience.

They claim to have 80 classes but in high levels only ~10 of them are very relevant, for me this job system is totally a mess, i don’t feel like this game needs 80 differente classes, if we only have the 4 basic and a HUGE skill tree of each of them it would be WAY easier to balance the game.

So, after 140 hours, this morning i finally decided to quite.

I’ve never seen such toxic post that I want to puke badly like this.
Obviously, this game is not for everyone. And instead of a constructive post, you put such a toxic post that discourage every players. Gosh, I really have to put you on awaiting-ban list.