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"Denoptic" - The broken boss

Tried to kill this boss 5 times in a row as a wizard/ cryomancer a few moments ago. The boss is this green octopus/ plant thing that basically has the abilities to shoot laser in a straight line and in a circular motion, throw out some white bolts which then explode and shoot green balls around it. While the boss is basically well thought out and the fight is planned out to be actually interesting and engaging, there are quite a number of reasons why it isn’t.

First of all the abilities the boss has are quite interesting and you need to adapt your distance and position according to the reactions of the boss. This would be awesome if you actually could do that. As long as I keep the boss in the top part of my screen, nothing goes usually wrong and it’s manageable to avoid the skills. However whenever I circle above the boss so that he is in the bottom part of my screen, the bottom of the boss goes out and the animations of the boss don’t show correctly. The green projectiles hit almost instantly (causing damage way before the actual projectile hits) and are basically impossible to avoid apart from pure luck.

The straight line laser is almost always avoidable as long as you keep on circling the boss but the circular one isn’t. It requires you to shift your distance from the boss to either take a step further or flanking the boss by coming closer. This would be fine if the boss would show the animation of using the skill correctly in all situations but again it for some reason does not if it isn’t fully on the screen which happens quite often when it is positioned in the lower part of the screen.

Tragic thing is also that all of the projectiles don’t always hit where they should be hitting. More than once I’ve been way out of the way of the green balls or laser beams and haven’t actually been in the path of them at any point but end up still taking damage. Sometimes the projectile just hits you at the max range right after it has launched. This is quite fatal because sometimes the skills cause knockdown and the boss can jump on you and cast the green balls, basically killing you instantly.

In conclusion while the mechanics of the boss have been well planned out and actually make the fight interesting and engaging, the poor mechanics and bugs in animations and hitbox recognition or visual projectile/hit area correlation make it insufferable. It is not in any way reasonable to spend minutes on fighting a single boss just to be killed by an invisible projectile.

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Oh boy you found a bad one, those green balls at all directions are almost unavoidable.
God but you are yet to see the worst.

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Run, don’t look back.
This boss is pure nonsense to battle.

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I love fighting this boss. :smiley:

Sounds like you need to git gud little guy.

he will do that green projectiles for 3 times, try to run ASAP when he starts twisting his body. He sometimes spam that skill so you have to be patient and attack him after the interval.

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you mean the piece of ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** … on mausoleum…

I manage to finish it after like 100 dead with help from a barb.

I was psychoniko c1 I think at the time, so you might guess my level of frustration at that boss.

number one hardest and pain-in-the-ass boss in the game, I agree

Denoptic is fairly easy, what makes him hard is:

  1. that fps drop while he’s doing the “requiem of souls” move three times
  2. because of #1, fight becomes long since you cannot go near him during that phase
  3. has weird invulnerability periods, mostly during #1 as well

Denoptic is fairly easy :expressionless:

my traumatic wizard C2 Psychoniko C1 experience said otherwise, even thought I admite that what you said made it worst…

it is hell when you need to literally put a hand inside the boss to hit it with your best skill and it’s easily interrupted :\

Yeah. if you are not tanky enough it will crush you.
He throws a lot of skills/lasers/green thingy in a fast pace.

Try to hit and run, as in run away from its screen or to a point that you will not see him then regen, then do it over again. Use your kiting advantage then run and run and run. Run forest, run!!

EDIT: Be patient, take your time, kite and run and kite and run, run away from its sight.

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“Rush not into fights, Long is the war, Only by surviving it, will you prevail.”

I remember this boss…
A lot of its attacks can have their animations glitched then all of a sudden I get hit with an invisible laser…

His projectiles are easy to avoid when he is teleporting: he shoots in 4 cardinal directions (NEWS) and diagonals - 8 projectiles total, if you stay in between those directions at a decent distance - you are safe. The only possibility to die during that boss fight is getting him teleported on top of you while you are knocked down. Else it is a rather easy fight.

I killed it in my 1st run with my str based priest c2.
The animations for each attack are quite distinct to know what skill its going to use.

It takes some time, but as long as you hit and run you should be ok.

Fought it two times, last time yesterday. Had no issues besides getting a huge burst of damage when standing too close. Fun boss though, nothing like the other 100000 bosses that allow you to just facetank them and autoattack them to death.

However, on the topic: Yes, I think some skills of the boss didn’t have proper indicators and/or animations.

It’s impossible to avoid those green ball when you have 300-500 ping :cry:

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Well you can’t complain about having issues with the game then though. That’s an issue you have to get rid of yourself; it’s not the games fault…

inbe4 you whinne again when you fought abomination it can hit you 5k1 even when you have scales armor

IMC team!!! Please dont make denoptic easy, but make all other bosses such strong as denoptic.

Sorry for bad english.

It is very interesting boss. I killed him solo with different classes, and every time it was a very positive challenge. I have killed him with dps (2 builds of mage (ice and fire) and 1 sword (hoplite)), with suport (2 cleric builds, priest and krivis), my ping is 300-400 ms. And dont tell me “barbarian is OP” - i never played barbarian =).

If all the bosses will be easy - then there will be no wish to make a party with anybody - everyone will play solo. Difficult bosses will make weak players to create party and become friends.