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Declining population, bots, P2W

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#1

I came back to try and play this game since the rank 8 came out and some optimizations were done (though they were completely minimal). Seems there’s a few work arounds though with changing the xml files.

Anyway, what I’ve immediately noticed is that the user experience even as you try the game out as a free to play user is completely negative. The game literally tries to make you not want to play it. It does everything in its power to turn players away which goes hand in hand with its declining population.

http://steamcharts.com/app/372000

Next, there are bots EVERYWHERE. Chat spam selling bots that I report that sit there all day, same afk farming bots that are there all day in dungeons farming mobs that you need for advancement quests, etc. Reporting them does nothing it seems. They sit there for days and farm away. Either way the game clearly does nothing to harm bots but directly harms players. Both paid and F2P.

This has been an issue since closed beta and seems that even after a year nothing has changed. I don’t get why this game has so many issues with harming its own player base and making life difficult, asking you to pay to win but then not giving you much in return or still making it hell even after you’ve paid.

I just don’t get why a game company wants players to not play their game this badly. Everything from move speed, farming, exp gain, player trading, questing, lack of skill/stat reset for free players, etc. It all adds up to a negative experience and makes players leave and go play better games.

You can argue any of the above points as people have tried to white knight the game. I like the feel, i like the looks, but the game flat out plays bad. Its linear as hell and boring. Its just cute. And a lot of reviews of the game say the same.

Seeing as how we’re going to have bots no matter what we do I suggest the following:

-Give players some form of stat/skill reset that they can purchase on auction house or from quest/vendor/drop

-Give players 1:1 trading. Level 40 doesn’t matter, bots don’t care they’ll just do it anyway. You’re just hurting players as usual.

-Remove all pay to win options. This always needed to go. Token users should experience lots of cosmetic and other side-grades that do not inherently give them advantages over F2P. Dungeon lock outs also need to go.

You need Free to Play players to make up the bulk of these games or else the game is just dead and is left with bots. Free to play players help make up bulk of dungeon and party queues, make the world feel “full” and are generally there to give the game economy.

… This post was longer than intended. Plz fix IMC. :<

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#2

Listen to the game, you dont want to play it, you really dont, no really, just dont. Oh and dont worry about the white Knights, they are gone, all slain by the joint collaboration of the Doom Lords and the Hue Knights. Logic, reason and non-shitposting has defeated the White Knights.

This game is literally just a cash grab for funds to further develop IMCs real mmo, Wolf Knights. Thats why they don’t care.

Hue.

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#3

I had figured as much. I’m just astounded by the ■■■■ quality of video games these days where devs poop out garbage content, don’t update it, don’t optimize it, and expect everyone to pay lots of cash shop money for very little.

What ever happened to standards? :expressionless:

I’m just amazed they don’t even do anything about the bots. Especially ones that get reported and sit there in the same spot for months on end. Ridiculous.

Its bad for their reputation so I wish them luck if they think they’ll have a successful second game seeing as how they’ve shown they can’t even make this one work.

GG

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#4

Yea it sucks, I had high hopes for this game too, but best not to bother with it, come back in a year if they havent pulled the plug, hopefully they will have made it alot better by then, if the game survives that long.

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#5

THIS RIGHT HERE is what those whitekights and hardcore players don’t get. They will call you whiners losers and advise you to uninstall.

Once you make your way to the last rank, you almost always see the same people. So much for a “MMO”.

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#6

I just learned that even if you are a pay to play person you HAVE to buy extra character slots. There’s also no stat reset as far as I know. There’s a skill reset potion but that’s it.

Like… Why do they go so far out of their way to make people NOT want to play their game? Its extremely frustrating as a new player and if you ■■■■ up your build you have to start over. Like wtf?

I thought games were meant to be enjoyed and FUN. Guess people in Korea need to get their heads checked.

rest in pieces Ragnarok 3

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#7

Uh they never said this was RO successor

#8

One of the lead devs is from Ragnarok. The game plays like Ragnarok. Ragnarok 2 never really existed cuz it was garbage. The game looks like Ragnarok a lot. Its class system is like Ragnarok.

For all intents and purposes, this was the Ragnarok 3.

Too bad it sucks, is full of bots, has pay walls everywhere and is poorly optimized.

Massively declining player base just saddens things further. If they could at least address the bots and stop punishing players that would be nice. A lot of other games, even free to play games don’t experience the same issues (to the severity experienced in this game) like in this game.

I also don’t get why we can’t trade cash shop money like in other free to play games on the market place. That’s like staple economics for free to play games. You just do it and that gives free to play players a chance to grind their face off and have something to work towards to slowly unlock stuff.

dead game

#9

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#10

I never fail to laugh at this gif.