Dps wizards seem to be entering āthe dark ageā. Archers have been ridiculously overbuffed and noone wants dps wizards now. Archers with links kill faster than an aoe dps wiz.
They are needed only to provide archers with links and buffs at the moment. To make things worse, the double aoe damage on links has been removed making links almost useless for the dps wiz.
Maybe This is what the OP wanted to say.
Except itās not true. You always want a DPS wiz. It just makes everything better. Instancing, world bossing, etc. Archers havenāt been ridiculously overbuffed ( save for QS3, but Iām sure that will change ). I generally run a party with a healer and 3 archers. You know what Iām always dying for? A wizard in the party to give us DPS. We get a wizard in the party, and everything is better.
Wizards are a great buffing class, if you spec them like that. Thatās one of the unique and cool things about this game. Anyone here saying that wiz canāt do good dps late game hasnāt actually played late game on a DPS build wiz. You canāt be serious. Show my why pyro 2/3 is bad, why wiz 3 ele 3 is bad ( show me a wiz3 ele3 that isnāt getting boxes at world boss fights, please ). If your complaint is that you built support wiz classes and canāt do top DPS ( by yourself, not including the DPS you provide your party ), then I dunno. Otherwise there are valid DPS builds for wiz that work and do great.
I do hope that your words are true. But the situation seems sad to me.
If you had a support wiz in your party to link for your archers, I am afraid that you would not need a dps wiz. Basically, the buffs archers have got are forcing every wiz to go support. I do hope that Iām wrong though.
In your Cleric + 3 Archers group, you want a Linker.
In party, a Dps Wiz without linker is alright, can be replaced with any other DPS. Linker is always preferred on the other hand.
In world boss, pyro is not great because of fireball pushing. And if wiz 3 ele 3 can get a world boss box then any other dps can. Their sustain single target is probably on the lower end:High CD abilities that rely on target being stationary + bad auto attack, not to mention high sp cost. I m not sure about Swordmanās single-target dps but I know that Int Cleric and Archer are ahead of Wiz 3 Ele 3 in good margin.
Overall, I think Linker is good, dps wiz is alright. I often find party looking for Linker and Cleric because of extra Safety Zone, Heal and synergy with Linker. No group ever actively looks for pure DPS wiz.
any idea for a good build for Alchemist?
If I were to make an Alchemist, I would go Wiz -> Pyro -> Linker -> Pyro -> Linker -> Alche. Fast grind, good single target for field boss and Linker C 2 for group. Since it is a money making class and you wonāt be likely to use it after you get your desired circle of Alchemist, you donāt have to worry much about scaling.
is Wiz Pyro Linker Ele c2 not better? if not which skills would u skill for Wiz -> Pyro -> Linker -> Pyro -> Linker
Link, Hangman, Flame ground/Fire ball, rinse and repeatā¦
It can work. Ele has scaling damage because of Electrocute and Hail are multi hits. However, Pyro Linker has faster grind thru rank 4 and 5 and some party value with Linker C2.
Itās more like the darkest age for archer is over.
You donāt really want to have Ele in your build if itās not a Ele C3. Ele C2 is just underwhelming compared to other possible choice.
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only for sorc, necro and phyco
Right on point. Iām not sure if Wiz is the class with the short end of the stick now tho.
@ashita_fortune, forgot cryo
And most C 1 and C 2 of other classes, namely wiz, cyro, and even chronoā¦Seems like wiz is more like a go hard or go home class, go C3 or donāt go at all xD
Itās my mistake that I try to throw everything i think to single topic.
So to state here after refine my statement :
It is not like that dps wizard are unwanted or underpower.
While other classes still have not able to settle score on the best build,
But the road to dps wizard leads to singularity - wiz3 ele3.
And that make me sad because it conflicts with what game was trying to introduce - vastly class combination.
That also change how people interact to wizard ā¦ now everyone want wizard, they think of their link ability not their dps
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I agree with you, except a few good choices, the others dps has too many problems and tradeoff.
Pyro: strong pure dps class but kinda suck in team play and canāt hold a candle to wiz 3 at late game dps (my opnion).
Cryo: top contender in pvp with hard CC but in boss fights their CC are just useless.
Psyc: too many problemsā¦(ice wall + pp combo save the day but stillā¦)
Necro/Sorc: except the summons their other skills are just plainā¦horrible.
Warlock/Featherfoot: donāt know how good their C2,3 are but most ppl very disappointed with their C1 set.
Even the good choices has their own problems but they are fair trade so i wonāt complaint:
Wiz: kinda hard at early levels
Ele: need team or wiz 3 or strong cc like cryo/linker.
Linker: useless in boss hunt without C2,3 (this is a problem, too many ppl just stay at C1)
Thaum: how strong their buffs scaling at late game is still a question.
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I love how everyone just bash WIz 3 Ele 3 build in icbt2 and now it seems like Wiz 3 Ele 3 is the only viable build.
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They did buff wiz 3 a bunch, nerfed linker and moved sorcās/necroās important skills to later circle.
Ele 3 suddenly becomes the better option at rank 6. With ele 3 becomes the top choice, wiz 3 becomes more valuable than ever.
Still Lethargy Attribute is broken againā¦
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I mean what else were they going to give them at their next rank?
Itās not like either of them had enough points to get all the skills they got at c1
And letās be honest.
Necro using summons to AFK farm was kinda annoying
Because there were never any mobs for anyone else to kill.
Iām glad that now they have to wait untill a point where their summons arenāt OP for the current end game conteint.
Tbh the buff and nerf is unneeded. Everyone just cry too much about linker being op and wiz 3 ele 3 being underpowered for these to happen.