Swordsmen are STRONG from the start and still STRONG
Clerics are best in magic department and have heal
Archers are recently buffed a lot and they deserved that
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They are best friend to have … linker, thaumaturge, chronos, alchemists
With raise of archer, this tree are pushed down deeply
Wizards are buffer class
Real Magic dps have heal
You should see Wizards in PvP. Real scary.
The true power of a wizard comes from it mind and will…
I pity those who underestimate a true wizard 
If this is the darkest age, then this isn’t very dark at all
Indeed…
[annoying 20 char requirement]
yah the only class that can build
#FULL CON
and still deal decent DPS in both PvE and PvP with just
#1 INT
is weak.
Its not the dark age but some fixes for int stat, animation lock when u unable to run away cause u started ur spell and then boss drops void zone on u and especially some classes (like rebalancing sorc for me) and att. (pyro switch on/off att on fireball hits by others that moves it away from mobs for example) would be nice.
I’m a Swordsman player. Do you want to know how many times I got fked by Wizard in duels? 
I’m not sure whether you know what you are saying here…have you played the game and see for yourself?
But you made me a bit relieved that there is still someone out there who still consider Swordsman as “strong”. I’m seriously surprised and touched.
Yet, somehow, when I’m forming a party, the one thing I always want is a wizard. If I have a wizard, I can do a dungeon without a healer. If I have a wizard, I will be doing more DPS than without a wizard. I dunno, this is dumb. Wizards are way more powerful than swordies at PvE and PvP.
I agree with this thread, wizard wouldn’t really be worth playing in pve if it wasn’t for linker (even after the nerf). There’s a reason almost everyone is a pyrolinker.
Edit: Runecaster might have saved the branch for me, ice buff op… unless it’s wiz3 only then it’s back to samebuildism.
I actually think Wizard is the most well made class, every choice is gain and loss, every class has its unique playstyle, and build variety is extremely diverse.
Every other classes should be benchmark with wizard class.
Cleric is the one really OP, they can be good in everything now, they can heal, buff, tank and dish great DPS. the physical just go with Chaplain and the magic damage just go with Krivis + Plagued Doctor, these 2 should be the cookie cutter build now. Bokor/Monk/Sadhu is totally obsolete now
Archer’s buff is still okay, they deserve it, hope it boost the popularity of Archer class now.
Swordsman is the one really depress now, because all they have is DPS, and Cleric/Archer has taken the role.
Finally someone who knows what he’s talking about.
Swordsman is mostly all about DPS crap except Squire and Templar. Templar itself is crap at the moment.
And about Cataphract, your movement speed can’t save you from Wizard’s crowd control skills, and can’t break through Cleric’s Stone Skin-Safety Zone-Barrier-Mackangdal-Revive-Golden Bell-etc, and can’t touch Archer’s Cloaking-Evasion-etc.
Moreover, Swordsman’s crowd control skills can be easily avoided, blocked, and resisted by other classes.
They do have more benefit in status gain, buff limit, and fast grinding, but so what? They will fall at late game unless IMC will do something about it.
Most of the Wiz classes are fine. Pyro is still one of the best solo classes, Linkers are gods for party play, Ele do tons of damage. If anything Cryo needs a little bit of love, but Wiz is definitely in a good spot.
oh Wizard 3 just got a buff as we speak
What I see, Wiz3 is better than Pyro2 now, while previously I think they are just on par.
Wiz3/Thau2/Necro2 surely a beast now.
If really anything to pick about wiz, probably I would say improve Psychokino.
Or wizard lack of a auto-attack build which good on single target that are fun to play
Warlock we have yet to seen, but Featherfoot’s HP absorb looks good.
Well maybe I address my problem incorrect. I only project my issue from single perspective DPS.
The problem is not wizard is weak, they are strong in some area
I love have linker in my team or thaumaturge’s big cute head and they are excel in those area
however my idealization of wizard who should be glass nuker cause in the end number of HP you can deplete from enemies faster and higher = you win
in current situation only limited number of builds that stands test of time when consider boss hunt competition. Can you name build that can win dps other classes if I exclude wiz3-ele3 and linker-sor?
if you see featherfoot videos you will notice that the class is like an evolution of Psychokino 
Then this isn’t the wizards you’re looking for.
Pretty much every game that stay away from holy trinity always favors more balanced stat distribution.
(Actually even in holy trinity games glass cannon classes still generally build some amount of HP to survive unavoidable damage mechanics)
Pyro 2 Elem 1 Sorc Necro
Pyro 3 would’ve done better but the above was my build and I could get boss cubes just fine.
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is that a race for world boss? i would love to see how it would compare against w3,ele3
Wait but wizard can stick to 1 weapon type and use all the classes from any rank it want freely. Swordsman is limited by weapon choice. Archer even more…
