Hi there, i have played some time ago a QS3 SR2, that guy was almost full str. Now im starting a new R3 SR and i want to know about how people is building it. Many archers can perform well going full dex, but i dont think is the case for SR, i think he needs some STR, maybe something like 1:1 str/dex or 1:2. Also, when i was playing my old SR green gems was mandatory (pre r8) but know probably there are better options by now, what gems did you put in your main hand and off hand? Finally in what weapon did you invest your practonium, xbow or pistol? Ty
i play a QSR too and i have full dex, yellow gems on main weapon and red on pistol. full dex because right now with the new gems str isn’t very useful for damage, only for block penetration.
Didn’t reach that yet, but definitely use practonium on pistol
for a QS, your main hand will definitely be didel grand cross or marvel grand cross, both of which do NOT require pratctonium
that leaves you with a pistol, since SR skills scale off of pistol damage (off hand weapon) and SR is your main class, its a much better choice to get the lvl 315 pistol double stack first ( or that orange one aspana or w/e)
for a QS, all you need is a dgc and mgc.
Eventually you’ll have to transcend both for maximized damage, what i’d do is get DGC to stage 2-3 and then focus on making your pistol stage 5+ if you’re capable of that
Yes, that makes absolutely sense for a QSR, but for a ranger reiter i dont know 
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With Transcendence and the new red / yellow gems its best to get your crit rate from dex. You can pump full dex till at least lvl 250 then do the math to see how much more you need to hit the crit cap with buffs.
My mergen is full dex, but sr dont have that high base skill damage, im not quite going full dex in a SR
well, but you can get more critical attack and physical damage from gems than from stats,
even if you go 100% str you won’t get as much critical attack as having lvl 7 yellow gems stacked in your weapons
same goes for red gems and physical attack
the crit rate value the item gives simply not worth it.
The thing is, it doesn’t matter that they don’t have high base skill damage because gem stats and transcendence make up for that. Besides, STR never made a big difference in damage to begin with
^^ this just look at this picture and see how much physical attack you can get from gear
with this kind of gear available, im sure 600 more str wouldn’t make as much difference as 400-500 dex would having high crit rate.
It doesn’t look like a legit weapon anyway.
The potential should be 0 for a +15 weapon (Using gold hammer to enhance the rest). It’s obviously made from the server crash exploit where you can have infinite tries on upgrading and resetting. It’s silly the game don’t ban these kind of exploiters.
no not really, some people get lucky. remember that you have 51% chance to succeed from like +8 and up.
Not my character anyway so I wouldn’t know. don’t see why it matters.
But I guess its hard for people to see someone good in this game and not complain that he is cheating.
I believe in statistic more than the miracle luck.
The most likely situation is this person probably get to +10 legitly, then he figured out the exploit and use it for the remaining upgrades. The server crash exploit for godly equipment thing is really not uncommon nowadays. There’s so many cases where the exploiters get unpunished. It’s foolish the believe every miracle stuffs you see is legit nowadays since cheating seems to be the much more common root since IMC already don’t give a damn to begin with.
Do you know there’re many screenshots of those gears with max potential at +15, and even with 2 sockets! And the owner still get unpunished ofc.
i still don’t understand what does it have to do with anything i said about the OP’s question
do you purposely search for reasons to argue?
i have no idea what this guy did nor do i care. all i see is a picture with a stage 10 transcendence, which is great for me to explain my example to the poster.
Submit a ticket if you want him punished, not really my problem.
I got a Chappa bow to +10 with 0 potential fail and my guild master got a something twin blade to +15 with 1 potential fail (my other tries with actually useful weapons were fails though xD)
Believing in statistics means you also believe in that 1%. Anyway
@OP If you already have the old meta’s gears (pretty much just manamana and green gems) you’re good with the old stats. I’d save all your red/yellow gems for when we can actually get the orange pistol (which is a pain to craft, actually). 3 sockets, can you believe it? Once we get that, you can say buh-bye to any STR in your build, but for only one socket manamana gives it’s just not worth a stat reset imo
IF you got your manamana at +10 and above, you better off use that than make 315 violet pistol (double stack). the damage difference is so little that i hardly laugh to those who make it (2-3k difference?).
the only saving grace double stack has if:
- you are willing to upgrade it above +10 (which would cost you not less than 15mil)
- 2 Sockets, place your own red or yellow gem here.
- Transcend it atleast 3 or 4 stages which is again not cheap.
You are actually wrong on this. I’ve got a +10 stage 2 trans manamana and it only has about half the damage of the double stack without upgrades or trans. I can probably find a screenshot upon your request if you don’t believe this.
The Double stack is exponentially better than the manamana not only in terms of damage but as well as it’s sockets available allowing you to put in an extra red/green/yellow or what ever gem color of your choice.
@elzeraus do you happen to have proof of the damage difference being laughable when comparing a +10 manamana to a doublestack? Do you have an sr and you yourself have tested it out? Providing people with misleading information isn’t good because it leads them to doing something that is the exact opposite of what they should be doing.
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please do so, as i have compared with a lot of double stack users in my server '[telsiai] and the damage difference is that so little.
+14 trans2 mana here btw.
Got a SS of this manamana? Let me take some after I eat and I’ll post my damage comparison here.
will post my SS later, currently not online so i have the leisure to browse Forum as of the moment
All good. Here is a the manamana at +10 stage 2 trans with a total of 239 Physical attack.
Here is my other base double stack at +0 pic
Notice that the attack of the double stack is 363 with a 77-128 attack bonus from the stat lines within in.
440-491 is the total min-max of the base double stack wherein the +10 (Stage 2 manamana) only has a total of 239. If I took the max damage the double stack base unupgraded and untranscended and divided it by two, the total will be 245.5 which means that the max damage it can deal is still stronger than the manamana by at least twice.Yes the lightning property damage isn’t taken to consideration but I think we can both agree that property attacks have no modifiers to the damage unless you are wearing cafri or the manahas set unlike the actual physical damage advantage on the double stack itself.
kindly test the damage to compare both.
the lightning atk from manamana is enough to compromise the min-max bonus of double stack, disregarding the bonus crit rate and movement since it is not a factor in damage output.
Flat base atk is indeed in favour of Double stack, but as i said from the top.
IF you got your manamana at +10 and above, you better off use that than make 315 violet pistol (double stack). the damage difference is so little that i hardly laugh to those who make it (2-3k difference?).
don’t forget about this too:
the only saving grace double stack has if:
- you are willing to upgrade it above +10 (which would cost you not less than 15mil)
- Sockets, place your own red or yellow gem here.
- Transcend it atleast 3 or 4 stages which is again not cheap.
then again, do some damage test on your own and provide us the difference. i might be wrong with the 2-3k damage difference. but i stand firm that was the damage gap i experience.
P.S: you can also look out for some Ktos player (blue?) for the reason why he opt to use manamana over doublestack.