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Crimson member caught abusing bug/hack . VIDEO PROOF INSIDE! UPDATED!

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#1

Caught someone from crimson abusing bug/hack to spawn INFINITE skeletons just to gain a advantage to afk farm at bee farm. Those with necromancer can confirm that the number of skeleton spawned by him is abnormal and the fact that the skeleton run back to him proves that it is him abusing the bug.
Who knows what else he did in the game to gain advantage over the others? Can something be done about this bug abuser/hacker ? Really disappointed with you Eroc :frowning:

Lastly, just to add this forum account was given to me by someone from crimson so if the post / video disappear then we all know what happened.

Update 1: People are saying how easily it is to replicate the bug and that what demon did might not be intentional. I tried to see if it is indeed that simple but nope, the bug doesn’t happen that easily. Just people who probably dont even have a necromancer in the first place spreading bull ■■■■ or someone close to the guild defending this kind of action.

There are also people discussing about whether afk farming should be allowed in the first place. I am here to report someone for abusing a bug / using a hack to gain unfair advantage. Please take that discussion elsewhere, thank you.

@STAFF_Max @STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_Amy @STAFF_Ines please check this out and ban this bug abuser / hacker

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#2

more skeletons = less AI

#3

Don’t feel too bad. I tried to kill the twin centaurus bosses at the start of the R8 quest lines and lost about 100 archers/skellies ten seconds in and was promptly murdered. His class is hot garbage, he can’t use shuggoth on the later maps, flesh cannon does ■■■■ all now - he’s basically trapped at bees.

Also, the fact that you’re complaining about this means it’s 95% likely you’re one of those obsolete autopotting sorc dirtbags, in which case kindly lick my taint.

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#4

It’s happening spontaneously to all necros. It’s loathful that someone would use it to AFK farm, but it’s more of an issue about AFK farming being possible AND ALLOWED in the first place.

#5

@tosbosshunter13
Thank you for bringing this up to my attention.
Demon just recently joined the guild (right after r8 patch), but I have no excuse if the person is actually abusing a bug.

I don’t know much about the bug itself, but may I know the details? and is he the only one abusing the bug?

I will talk to the person myself. If he deserves a ban, then that’s it. Can you check this out @STAFF_Max @STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_Amy @STAFF_Ines

You should post this in this section as well btw https://forum.treeofsavior.com/c/gameplay-reports/hacking-abusing-reports

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#6

If you resummon skeletons with one dead, it breaks the cap of 5. That’s the bug, as far as I can tell, and it works with archers and regular skellies.

So if he just keeps casting it every 60 seconds, skeletons can accumulate.

It’s actually rather hard to play without getting a few extra, as their HP doesn’t regenerate under any circumstances, so even at bees he’ll have to start casting the ability - and if he loses one, the limit breaks, and he’s suddenly got 9 instead of 5.

If he goes down to 5 due to skeleton death, the cap is fixed temporarily - until he’s below 5 again. It’s pretty silly.

As it has been hinted before, the AI for the bugged skeletons is dysfunctional. Sometimes they stand idle for long periods of time. They can be encouraged to attack again with by moving far enough to leash them, but this trick won’t take even the most ruthless exploiter very far. They’re quite helpless against the new bosses.

It was this revelation - that my class was broken beyond repair even with massive bug exploitation on my side - that made me uninstall.

#7

So basically, the intentional abuse of this bug is done by doing this?

Does this apply to all afk Necros in the map too (not saying that they intentionally abuse the bug)? (Because the person who was recording this is also a Necromancer himself)

#8

I don’t know if there’s any special requirements for the skelly limit break. It may or may not relate to attributes. I saw a 250 necro doing it so it can’t be anything circle 3 related.

If you see a necro with like 40 of both types of skeletons, absolutely they’re abusing it. If you see one with 9 of each, they may have just unintentionally broken the cap. It’s not something we can control, unless we just refuse to try to resummon them until they’re all dead (or switch channels every time we recast, losing our shuggoth).

Edit: I’ve actually watched the video now, and odds look 50/50 to me that they’re abusing it or are simply not paying attention and pressing the resummon button without caring what happens.

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#9

@ridleyco
Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. I appreciate it.
Based from that video, there are more than 9 skeletons on the screen. Is it safe to say that the person (Demon) is intentionally abusing the bug?

#10

I wouldn’t call it safe to say abuse was the intent. It’s definitely plausible, but… They may just be careless, or the result may have surprised them, and they kept pressing it out of curiosity.

There’s no reason they couldn’t have had 30 or 40 of them running around. Done it myself, plus 40 archers. Maybe they did, ten minutes after the video was taken.

Maybe give them a warning? I’ll say that this is bug is easier to abuse than it is to avoid.

#11

I’ll definitely give the person a notification that this thing counts as a bug abuse.

But it doesn’t change the fact that there is a chance that he will get banned or at least receive some kind of penalty considering he is one of a bunch of people who got caught.

The other thing is there are so many bugs after this r8 patch that a lot of things you do inside the game counts as a “bug usage” (not abuse).

However, I can’t say much considering there are other people who may/may not realized this is a bug but they decided to not report it in the first place (whether this includes Demon or not), and then once they see someone who they think “abused” the bug, they report it.

I’ll let IMC handle the decision making about Demon. All I can do is give him a notification in the end.

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#12

When you contact @STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_Amy @STAFF_Ines and @STAFF_Max don’t forget to tell them about Tenbu Horin from @desuguildleader’s guild as well. I’ve got a video of him having 091283901823182903 Skellies while he was right beside me at bee farm. He quickly logged off when he realized I noticed him.

@tosbosshunter13 want the video so you can add it to the OP? We can make a small compilation of abusers.

#13

This bug can’t be controlled as ridleyco is saying. This has been reported and summoning more than 5 makes the AI works very wonky. I don’t even consider it a huge advantage at all. The damage they do is still on the average of having 5 skeleton soldier and archer each which has much more better AI.

One thing that can be abused on this one is if they summon 40+ on each and cause tremendous lag and crash on players.

#14

Typical. One guy using a skill for his own advantage, blame the whole guild. The amount of toxicity and garbage on Klaipeda is beyond 9000.

Lesson of the day: Enjoy what’s left on Tree of Savior.

This. Someone tell OP what’s the difference between bug abusing and Hacking.

#15

@NotVau
True that one guy does not necessarily represent the whole guild but in the case of Tenbu Horin from “Desu” Guild, he is not just some newly recruited member as demon is with crimson. Let’s not forget that Desu is the same guild that was abusing channel crash for bossing as well as other exploits in the game. They were also using the “Invincibility” bug for GVG and nothing can cause damage to the affected players.

#16

@STAFF_John @STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_Amy

Can you just delete dina bee farm already? Or nerf it’s silver drop, nerf it to 0 so people can grind there instead of just the afk $.Then no more ‘spam reports’ from this place. :expressionless:

#17

Nope the guy above is lying about how easily you can summon infinite skeletons for some reason to try and defend his actions. I have tried it and it’s not as simple as pressing raise dead after 1 skeleton have died. Even if it was, from the video you can clearly see him summoning at least 20+ skeletons. That is definitely not accidentally clicking it out of curiosity

He obviously did it with an intent and that is to gain an unfair advantage against everyone there. So please do not try and sugarcoat it. Bug abuser and hackers deserved to be banned.

Below video is a video I took to try and replicate the bug to see if it is indeed as simple as what ridlecyo claimed, who seem to be defending demon’s action.


Turns out nope, just someone who don’t know anything talking bullshit
#18

suprised? hello no :))

#19

Most likely there is that this guy was using macro and did not realize that drew more skeletons while those who had not already died

#20

I have tried it out myself and no it’s not as simple as " If you resummon skeletons with one dead, it breaks the cap of 5. That’s
the bug, as far as I can tell, and it works with archers and regular
skellies." I don’t know how it work and you probably need more specific steps/hacks to break the skeleton cap. Either way, what the guy did is intentional and if he’s macroing as well, then that’s another offence on top of bug abusing / hacking