I am glad that you figured out that i am from another server. Its prolly not that hard, if you follow a bit the other leading GvG guilds on the other servers. I just wanted to enjoy a good GvG match at 3 AM in the night and was curious after the match about the gear you guys are using currently. I hope you guys were not that annoyed about receiving all those likes.
Yeah, and this was the not so fun part of the game:
http://i.imgur.com/KDyf7Ho.jpg
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We weren’t annoyed but curious on who was that person. I personally assumed it was someone from Alpha for whatever reason.
I wish you had posted this screenshot earlier, I wasn’t able to add screenshot of when the match crashed to my ticket report since my client crashed due to some skills casted by Alpha :’)
Yeah, exactly the not so fun part of the game. By the way, @Ramza do you have a screenshot of all spectators in that game? If we could get a list we probably could ask Kazuto or Kaenmaru if someone there is in their list of people who could’ve crashed the match and/or Soviet or his friends are actually there.
I also hope that it wasn’t caused by anyone inside Alpha itself since they either winning or losing wouldn’t change their ranks as far as I know making them having not to lose to do things like these. But since I’m not like them, guess I shouldn’t even been writing this ^^
As from our side we can assure you no one ever did crash channels and never will. Like I said to Kaenmaru (Alpha) a bit after the screenshot I attached on my last post, we’ve already lost to Alpha and Lotus (and on even worse number of people crashing/them also having more kills). We know to accept our loses, even if they’re caused by skills crashing people or bugs of being unable to use skills after the match start, and deal with them instead of resorting to match-fixing or anything like that.
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If what you allude to here is true, then literally anyone could delegate which matches count and which don’t, simply by spectating and crashing the match.
Is this proven to be true? Not specifically with Soviet, but in general?
People who say crimson doesnt abuse bug/hack are wrong. Clearly from 3 months ago when I posted this thread Crimson member caught abusing bug/hack . VIDEO PROOF INSIDE! UPDATED! with concrete proof that this guy is abusing bug/hack, many random dude (We all know where they came from ) came up to defend this guy / spread misinformation saying it’s unintentional / easily done (With steps on how to replicate it too!) . Note that aside from the guild leader, none of the crimson members dare to log on their main forum account and had to use throwaways to defend that guy too.
However when I tried to do it , it obviously didn’t work and that guy definitely did it on purpose. After that thread though , never ever seen that guy trying to do this bull ■■■■ at bee farm again ( Although it was stated that the bug/hack/exploit was patched a week later).
So what am I trying to do bringing this matter up after 3 months? I am trying to ride on this new drama to revive a dead thread about this abuser who didnt get any punishment he deserved 3 months ago after clearing abusing hack/exploits and also at the same time, if you want to pinpoint who the crasher might be from Crimson, maybe you can start by checking this Demon guy out since he have history doing this kind of bullshit 
FK this stupid game anyway =O
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[quote]the bug/hack/exploit was patched a week later).
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Are you clinically retarded?
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Honestly I have no idea, I’ve always assumed anyone in channel could crash it at will if they are doing it, be it spectator, field or anything.
Also already watched people crashing Dina Bee channels when Jace called me to see Ch1 being crashed over and over and I couldn’t see anything special on the character there, no idea on how it works and/or if it actually still works. lol
No one used throwaways or anything like that. Which btw @Erokhi can give you any clarification on what happened that time as well what was resolved.
And this is why we don’t cheat, our leader strongly disapproves any type of cheating and strongly encourages everyone to play fair in everything, different from Alpha’s leader who abused the match-making carrying all his guild on his cheat boat with his arms ^^
@tosbosshunter13 on the rest of your text, I’ll just give my like to @Csiko message and go back to things I have to do :v
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You guys take this to Archeage levels of extreme by spying on each other and infiltrating each others’ guilds to sabotage the battles. Congratulations! This is proving the statement about PVP in this game over a year ago absolutely right having just come from playing AA myself. Competitive people going to the extreme doing what ever it takes not even for the sake of TP any more only just to be the imaginary “best” at something.
Even at like 2AM EST too that takes dedication I’ll give you all that.
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Sorry to dissapoint you, but no one from my family had anything to do with your GvG match crashing. The guild focus has been clearing 40F, which we achieved and now that thats over our focus has shifted to helping out those that contributed, and creating various other guild media such as showcasing the run.
So again, sorry to dissapoint, but you’ll have to look elsewhere for your cop out.
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I got you, cant hide anymore, just surrender.
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You guys are making me want to re-quit this game.
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Yeah I guess clearing 40f with a known hooker is an accomplishment on the third world server. GJ.
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Who is he to deem it as an bug abuse and not usage of 3rd party programs if he doesn’t even know anything himself? He tried to get someone to defend his own guild member by sharing how to replicate the so called “bug” and how it happened. I discredited whatever he said with a 2nd video that whatever was said wasn’t what this guy “Demon” did.
What was mentioned in the patch note the day after I reported this guy was Raise Dead
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Will no longer be able to summon more skeleton soldiers than intended.
from https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=693 . No where did it say summoning more skeleton than intended was due to a BUG and not due to usage of 3rd party program which I suspect your guild member is using right from the start anyway. You dont expect them to write " Patched hook64 allowing multiple summons of skeleton soldiers" do you?And to your last claim that ALL of you don’t cheat, well, guess what, I caught one of you cheating
@tosbosshunter13 I quit the game before R8, and in doing so gave up my membership to Crimson—no use trying to hold a spot for someone who wasn’t going to play any time soon, so I resigned. During my membership there was never an instance of abuse or exploiting. Sure, from time to time there was drama, but most of it was respectfully kept between members.
The video of the member you posted was after I had left, so I can not vouch for their actions. I can’t watch it right now but judging from the details I read, I would side with you though and say that it was intentional exploiting. If the skill cap states that 5 is the maximum, then anything you do to break that cap would be an exploit, as the rule has clearly stated a maximum.
As a Thaum FF I often relied on Swell Body + Ngadhundi in later levels—it was unclear if the interaction was a bug or a feature because it worked exactly as mechanically expected: new max hp, degenerates post Swell expiration based upon perceived HP losses. A lot can be said for the interactions between skills in ToS—there are some “mechanics” that shouldn’t appear to work, but clearly do, and it has led to some interesting takeaways. Take Barrage + Feint for instance: how does lowering enemy evasion result in massive gains from the specific skill Barrage? Mechanically it isn’t sound, but in practice it performs and created an entire meta. Were all Ranger Rogues exploiters? Doubtful, which is why I was comfortable using the Thaum FF mechanic as at least its interaction was plausible on paper as defined by the rules of the skills. I say this because there is plenty in ToS that may be broken, but understanding the difference between an interaction and something that breaks a skill is important. Since the skeletons have a cap, then anything performed to break that cap would be an exploit. If someone accidentally ran around with 6-7 skeletons then it could be understandable if reproduction was simple enough to be an accident, but anything higher displays intent for abuse.
In all, Crimson has always upheld high standards, and the expectations for its members are equally high. I would not be surprised if the member in question from your video was kicked. The kind of player who would exploit once is likely to be the type that would do it again—getting caught is no excuse because it is the willingness to perform the action that is the fault.
But, to stay on topic—I don’t see Crimson having any reason at all to crash a battle, even if only to fight fire with fire, nor are the members I recall the type who would stoop to such levels.
A man must admist his mistakes i was wrong to mention @Soviet and @Crayons guild INERTIA had nothing to do with you CRIMSON crashing our match for whatever reason your guild or one of your members has.
@LunarRabbit stop triying to cop out and face the reality that i accused your guild first before naming anyone else.
Kaenmaru out.
So, that is what iToS had became… interesting. No wonder why the lower player base haha
You awfully remind me of another cheater guild that tries to feign innocence…
Cheaters will always try to prove they have not been cheating. You can give up, everyone knows @Soviet is a hook64 cheater.
huehuehue
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For you I only have this:
We did not crash. No reason to do so. Already near reset. Already #1 with good range average. Already lost to you when points were close and things were worse - no crashes.
To matches to finish normally when losing during deciding moments but to a match to crash when things are all peaceful and nothing in rank would change I can only think of someone doing it for framing purposes. Period.
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Whoever is accusing Crimson is retarded because you are seriously calling them out for 1 SINGLE MATCH!?
LMAO cmon guys what happen when Crimson destroyed Alpha 200 times?
Was that also Hook64 and cheats all those 200 times?
Crimson been number 1 guild in NA for like ever and have a huge score lead right now annnnnnd have lost to Alpha a couple of times before so why cheat on that specific night?
What is so special about that ONE NIGHT THAT CRIMSON HAD TO CHEAT versus the other 200 times Crimson clean the floor with Alpha LMAO.
Ya like I mention earlier Crimson took some loss from Alpha in the past and accepted being defeated.
You all are crying like babies over 1 game,please get over yourselves move on hahaha.
To be honest if any Alpha players are trying to accuse Crimson for cheating are hypocrites,when their the ones cheating with the win trades and trying to boasting themselves.Crimson never needed a second guild to get “FreeTP” nor needed to cheat to avoid one ■■■■■■■ loosely loss LMAO.
You think Crimson will lose their marbles if they lose a couple of matches in GvG?If Crimson had to cheat it would be against a guild that worth cheating against like for example Lotus who is a very strong guild.Alpha is a joke guild just like Diamond and cheat to be top 5 because they can’t win against Lotus or Crimson.
Side Note:I admit that win should of gone to Alpha regardless of the people getting DC/BUG or crashed from both guilds but the match crashed…end of story move on before you get a heart attack over 1 MATCH LOL.
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