with armaos safety zone blocks that attack. funny seeing armaos huff up a bunch of zombies and spit them out though. pretty creative attack design.
I almost forgot about my dearest friend - fearless blue sequoia from the crystal mines 
hackapelle should have totally gotten some control/utility.
If we could see some effect to know âthis attack can knockbackâ, but a great number of bosses dont do sh*t (no animation/effect/feedback) and they knockback you. What is the point? lol
If they want to keep this cr4p mechanic, at least make it clear to players what the f*ck the boss is doing, jeez
The market have many of this scrolls, make a good use.
Forecast is your answer bro!
Or 2h sword :L
Weird since cataphracts donât.
Like fletcher at rank 7?[quote=âshenhuehue, post:23, topic:364751â]
But even with sw3 in the 3 secs where PB is on cd you ALWAYS get a knockdown^^
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Literally always happens! 
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lol, but yes, you still do get KD even with that.
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I canât take credit for mentioning this xD
PVP/PVE wise i had always thought that there should be a proc that gives you inmunity to KD after some number of KDâs. Lets say, after 3/5 consecutive KDâs your char should be inmune to KD for at least 15 secs lol, or something like that.
Its kinda like the elsword KD system but instead of âKD after certain number of hits (values)â you should actually resist KD after certain number of CCâs or KDâs done to your character.
Well, thats why i think anyways.
Thats why i love durandal, the CD window its so small that it can save you âsometimesâ lol, but yes, you still do get KD even with that.
And that was good? lol what a stupid argument.
The worst is that Clerics canât even stop them anymore.
One of the reasons why I LOVED Stone Skin was because it gave immunity to knock backs as long as you blocked it (since these skills are physical). But now that SS is useless⌠Everybody just keeps on being spam-knocked back.
The worst is that you even get knocked back in a Safety Zone with some skills.
So Iâm really curious to know how they expect some static classes to play ?
You canât create almost full static classes and then give them no way to defend against knock backsâŚ
People who say âdodgeâ probably donât play the game that much, I guess⌠or they only do missions/dungeons.
There are several bosses who do massive circle ranged knock backs that even hit archers/wizards.
@Noxot Ausrine does help but is currently bugged. If you have the buff on while the statue disappears, the buff disappears⌠(even if you still had 20s left on it). But thereâs a short period of time when the statue has disappears but the buff circles are still on, and if you take it then you donât lose the buffâŚ
Which makes it pretty unreliable.
Not really. What is the use of this when the Boss do literally nothing and knockback everyone. Itâs â â â â â â â standing still, no animation anda BAM your pt is flying. IMC should fix these buggy and sloppy bosses first (AT LEAST MAKE THEM MOVE WHILE ATTACKING WTF)
Forecast predict all bosses atack, even if dont perform any animation.
The worst is that Clerics canât even stop them anymore.
Lycanthropy. Wolfy canât be knocked back.
This is the reason why Hackapell is so bad actually. You will get stun locked, just release the keyboard and go watch some netflix
Yo some of you peeps acting leet seriously never had to deal with chain KD.
Try doing Haulbek from the guild raid: Watch him just use the AOE that is so bugged that get you caught every time with KD from out of screen and then pull you all the way under boss as a follow up. Forecast cant even predict the range, cuz the skill hits you before the predictions shows up.
That whole you can jump and dodge. LOL, try jumping in front Paota; all thats going to happen is that you will get thrown into the air higher. Not to mention that i have been combo KD all the way from full to death before.
At this point im so used to it and tbh KD dont bother me to much, but the reality is that some bosses have way to many KD skills.
Argument? Not really I was just saying that at rank 7 everyone was going on and on about fletcher behind number 1 world bosser. Not saying Doppel isnât overrpowered (though they are the weakest defensively). The point is back then people were saying things like,
about fletcher and at rank 9 something else will probably become number 1.
If my âargumentâ is stupid, yours is doubly so, since you add nothing but calling something stupid.
My point saying something bad that happens before, doesnât justify do it again. Itâs like, Trump can murder hundred of people and say âbut Hitler did itâ. Whatâs the point of having a dominant class for wb? Of course some classes can be better, but isnât healthy just one taking every wb.
I wish Armaos (Lv290 DG) actually followed this rule. Nimble little f*cker. 
That boss is the single iffiest boss around that basically says FU to your Pain Barrier or your Lycantrophy and sometimes your SZ (collision push).
######You donât get knocked back by him in the traditional sense, but he can and will push you back, around, you name it (cancelling whatever you were doing).
Yeah, he is ass D: D:
Something similar happens with the 2nd Boss in Saalus Canyon Area, itâs that damn âmini-vacuumâ skill that interrupts you and cancel your skills animation/damage (but still puts the skill on CD), very annoying indeed. 
Anyway, I understand everyones concern about Pain Barrier and possible competition when the new World Boss system will hit iTOS, but honestly Iâm not really surprised, and PB is not really the main issue here but just the tip of the iceberg.
I always had two Boss killers on my account, a Fletcher/Mergen (my main) and a Doppel, and even way before the balance patch hit, I often used the Doppel for Boss killing given the right conditions (even tho my Mergen has always been better geared) and itâs simply because of one very important thing: party buffs/debuffs.
A Doppel (or any other physical damage dealer) becomes a real monster with the right party setup (for some buffs/debuffs you donât even need to stay in the same party) and itâs always been like this, even before balance patch and the knock-back spam from Bosses.
Dragoonâs Serpentine, Taoâs Storm, Mikoâs Kagura are all huge buffs that together give your physical DPS a HUGE boost that is not easly surpassed by other characters⌠the scaling factor is simply that much.
Before the balance patch and the nerf to monstersâ health pool, if you wanted to do Blut/Nuale whitout taking ages (or involve many players) that setup was the way to go, I assume it wonât be different this time around either⌠pain barrier or not, the synergy between ranks is more or less the same itâs always been since rank 8 came out, it just became more clear whoâs better fit for the job now (sadly, some ranks seems to be fit for everything nowadays )
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