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Compensation for exploiters?

@benofficial88 i’m not a complainer … i only reply to your bullshit :nerd:

Didn’t call you a complainer I said you guys can debate among yourselves. Now that i know you barely understand English ill stop replying to this thread.

Chicky guy…

Do you really think that I’m crying? Amazing…
Really amazing…
People always surprised me.

Barely understand English? Ehi Sensei, where is your punctuation?

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yeah i understand no english sir … i’m not good in english but i can understand your stupid sentence

Many of the players won’t even have a good item, once again reinforcing different players in different circumstances.

I said that it should be adjusted, multiple times now. But over compensation is better than under compensation.

Comparing this bug to future or past ones is difficult. To participate directly it wasn’t necessary to exploit, the drop system itself was bugged. It wasn’t people exploiting, a core aspect of the game didn’t work. If players go out of there way to exploit an actual exploit, there’s a good chance (hopefully) they’ll be banned, and even now players are going to be permanently banned, it’s an unusual case with severe consequences.

That’s why everyone also received additional compensation.

Really?

Dude, the real problem is:
I need to DO the runs for farming that.
You got it for free…

Its not like I “missing the fun” for not doing the runs.
Do the runs IS BORING.
Its like a job.

I need to work to receive my “salary”.
You got it for free.

IMC can block my account for a year and
give me equivalent amount in silver at the end.
I will enjoy. Cause I will receive without doing nothing. Like afk farm.
I will have free time to do other things.

I don’t have good item too. Why I have to sweat so much for gain equip, like kill 20000 mobs in HG and them no?
This don’t have sense!
If they have to keep equip, don’t make login restricted! Nothing changed!

Maybe, and just maybe, I can understand if they don’t have dropped stuffs.

I didn’t explain it well.
Yes, the bug was on Server side and the fault is IMC while is playing with servers.
I don’t want people get permabanned or banned.
I just wanted they remove all items or change DPK.[quote=“Queue, post:47, topic:363115”]
That’s why everyone also received additional compensation.
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I received compensation, and, for the maint I’ve lost a ET run and Saalus run (honestly, I don’t care that I’ve lost those runs).
Uhm… And I don’t see any reset ET/Saalus runs voucher…
And who lost his Guinea Pig? I think they received them new freshy Guinea, because on Tome and Reset they do not do anything compared on what they lost.

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They’re letting them keep one from potentially dozens they could have acquired, and if it’s a useless item that qualifies them for investigation then of course they deserve compensation.

I don’t think they should be allowed to keep the item either unless it’s low value and it could be reasonably assumed that they would have gotten it.

I’m in favour of of temp bans, and potentially permanent ones based on what evidence IMC has access to, but I guess I agree with you on item removal/DPK change if that is what you’re saying, especially since I’m a vocal advocate for drop system reform.

As I said before, I’d like compensations to be more varied, including items like ET reset vouchers. I personally dislike the overabundance of easy levelling, some is fine, too much isn’t.

Do you know it don’t make sense?
It feels like a climbing on the mirrors…
(not you, for what IMC is thinking)

Low value or not, still no sense.[quote=“Queue, post:51, topic:363115”]
I’m in favour of of temp bans, and potentially permanent ones based on what evidence IMC has access to, but I guess I agree with you on item removal/DPK change if that is what you’re saying, especially since I’m a vocal advocate for drop system reform.
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Yeah, I want removal/DPK changes.
I’m fighting with change DPK since they implemented it!

That’s why I said this is too much.

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If they would have gotten the item from farming enough, then it does make sense that they should keep it. They worked for it.


My main point in this whole discussion is tempering the outrage when there are aspects that weren’t considered. I don’t fully agree with IMC’s actions on the compensations given, but the idea behind them made perfect sense, and was the best they could do given short term notice. I see a lot of emotion and jealousy opposed to objectivity (not from you), we disagree less then we think. Overall, I support IMC’s corrective actions, even if I disagree with the specifics.

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Hello~ Just to clarify:

We do understand how this may seem unfair to the players who intentionally avoided the DPK irregular areas, however we cannot assume that all the users who were caught with these items did so with the intention to exploit. Automatically acquiring these items by being in the area cannot be deemed as “exploiting.” This is why we have divided our investigation into categories in order to investigate the users who may have used or traded the items. Once our investigation is concluded we will know the extent of these users actions and we will enforce the proper punishment.

Due to an issue on our side, not the players, we locked accounts which prevented many of our Saviors from enjoying ToS over the weekend as we conducted our investigation. They were unable to participate in daily events, guild runs, and other activities and for these reasons, as a form of apology, we wanted to properly compensate these users who couldn’t play simply because they had the items in their possession.

I would like to stress that since we could not and cannot guess the intentions of these users we would rather apologize for something that was a mistake on our end and not theirs.

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im quitting for tos, byee

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Did the mystical cubes from banned accounts expire? For example, if some players have 10 alts to roll practonium every day, while the ban lasts days, are all the 10 practoniums lost?

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I’m sorry but no.

It’s not like fair or unfair.
It’s like you have given too much.
Really? Enchant Scrolls, Multiply Token, Token 30d and Leticia Cube when they only can’t login for 4 days?
A LOT OF THEM.
Maybe, and maybe, I can understand few of them, but not a lot!
Reset scrolls (a lot of them) were good enough.
And really? 2 Token 30d for have lost only 4 days?

Absolutely no.

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“Nice, next time i will be sure to exploit as well, i just dont need to trade the items, right? Because i know that the staff will compensate me for my ‘boo boos’.” Thats what a friend of mine said when he saw that.
You are not compensating anyone, you are just encouraging people to participate the next time something like this happen. Your team should have thought more about this before doing that compensation givaway, mark my words, the next time something like this happen it will be chaos, its not just something that ‘someone in the internet said’, its raging on the shouts of you own game.
Bad decisions like this are only ruining the company credibility, and its not the first bad decision you guys have made so far.

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Nice, its better xploit or abuse some bug and not trade or put in marketing… so its fine… i will be rewarded for this :smiley: good to know for next time :smiley:

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It’s ok. I learnt a very valuable lesson. I didn’t abuse the token incident when the game started, the duping of items, crashing channels, hook, botting, weeds, dpk issues and probably others I’m forgetting. But on the next issue, which with you guys will be soon, I will abuse the ■■■■ out of it, errr sorry, I will continue to play the game normally and wait for my wonderful compensation. That’s the message you sent. And you’re right. You don’t know what people are thinking. But you simply should have shut down the servers and done a proper removal and then award everyone the same compensation for not playing during the duration.

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Thanks Leticia,

I was one of the exploiters I was waiting for market prices to rise again after the fix of the DPK bug so I could make higher profit before selling my DPK items. Thanks for gifting me all those goodies though, I don’t know why I deserve them (:

Sorry for all those people who sold their DPK items early and didn’t get ‘compensated’. I know how it feels.

Sincerely,
An ‘exploiter’

OT: seriously you guys at IMC are so retarded. It’s not about the compensation, its about the message you sent to the playerbase.

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a lot of people still have the buged dpk itens and had a bonus with the huge pack of itens…

since i didnt log in that time i still have to hear, “did you open your leticias cube yet?” no, because i didnt log in that time.

my friends dont call it a bug anymore, they refer to it as an event

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Guys, I’m not a White Knight, as you see I’m “fighting” with IMC decisions.
But I want to clarify this:
The problem was Server side, I mean, was inevitable that players will exploit.

IMC can’t do nothing against this.
So they took the “right” decision to do restrict login.
But on what they have absolutely wrong was on compensation: too much.
Instead of give 2 30d Token I can understand a 7d one (they have lost 4 days of playing and I think 7d one should be perfect).
Instead of give Multiply Token (a lot of them) I can understand 2 of them.
Instead of give Enchant Scroll (a lot of them) I can understand 5 of them.
Instead of give Leticia Cube I can understand nothing.

I’m sorry if they couldn’t open their Mystical Cube. But, since they have still HG items, is a good this decision.

(I’m opening Mystical Cube since January and still no Practo :slight_smile: )

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