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{Closed Poll} Swordsman C1

Lololol. NO!
Hell No! Create another char pls xD

Yep, they should make swordsman DPS worth a spot in the party :slight_smile:

You’re not looking at the core of the problem.

A much more reasonable suggestion would be to make Peltasta’s skills useful, other than mentioned Swash Buckling and 1 point of Guardian that’s just there for evasion bonus. I’m mostly talking about how much DPS those skills do and how it scales later, but CC could also use some improvements.

In this case people won’t feel like going Peltasta (especially more than 1 circle) is a complete waste of their DPS.

Another thing that should be done is to increase damage or decrease cooldowns and SP cost of most other skills for majority of Swordsman classes. If Swordsman went full DPS route and he isn’t tanky at all, then he should do a crap ton of damage for taking the risk of being in close combat.

More evasive maneuvers (like what some of Fencer’s skills can do) wouldn’t hurt as well.

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Actually, you didn’t got it, peoples are indirectly suggesting that all
Swordsmans should be tankers by default, or else the class will be
“weak”.

Bad idea.
The problem with making pelta circles better is this will even more ruin Highlander choice on c2 (as others dps class) and comfort every guys who think swordsman are just tanks they are right…

Well, it’s not that I didn’t get it, more like it’s just wrong. What I’m saying is that DPS route of Swrodsmen must have buffs for their DPS, and tank routes must have improvements for tanking (more CC) while also not being completely useless DPS wise and won’t serve as a dumb “aggro machine” that just stands there pressing “C”.

I think you didn’t read second part of the message that says that other Swordsmen classes need buffs to their DPS.

In some other games to be able to tank you need to do good amount of DPS as well and constantly use well timed blocks, aggro skills and CC. In ToS being tank is a much more boring job and that’s also a problem.

Nevermind bro,
You are right. :stuck_out_tongue:

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I vote NO, but swordsman DPS classes are clearly the weakest among any DPS, they nerfed highlander after iCBT2, they nerfed doppel after iCBT1, reducing skill damage. Hoplite got his cooldowns higher. And Barbarian, already nerfed twice after both iCBTs, frenzy that were c1 is now c2, cleave was a skill named aggresion that had same effect as finestra, and lot of skill damage reduced

If your DPS class is useless on endgame just ask for buffs
An DPS class can’t be able to tank, taunt and do a lot of damage. Instead of ask for buffs people are just accepting the fact that every swordsman build needs pelt1 to be useful.

Peltasta has a Taunt and can pull mobs together.
Linker can pull mobs together.
Psychokino can do it.
Cryo C3 Frost Pillar can pull infinite targets.

Be a bit more creative…

The Problem is that dps Swordsman are a bit weak - not every swordsman should be a tank. IMC will fix this problem - just wait. No game is ever balanced on release.

Impression or Two Handed Sword using classes are getting the worst?

Oh yeah? Any other class can do good damage without buffs, but swordsman itself needs buffs to deal good damage.
That would be kind of a shame for the class I’d say.

Swordsman classes at iCBT1 had the massive amount of buffs, each class had at least 1 buff on first circle, excpets highlander that never had a buff skill but always had the crit attribute, they kept reducing they buffs and implementing then on skills, like crit buff after using cleave (barbarian skill), now swordsman dps looks more like a melee wizard full of spells that affect only a few mobs, the only way to give a good damage as swordsman now is combining this buffs and keep using skill after skill to stack this short timed buffs

2H stance got pretty nerfed, but lots of skill doesnt need this stance anymore

I’m not talking about skill buffs like concentrate or gung ho lol
on iCBT² barbarian was insane soloing all the game through the cap, on the other hand archer was an ■■■■ compared to barbs. Then IMC nerfed swordsman and buffed archer.

You going to give the melee clerics a taunt for convenience sake too?

No. That’s the reason why Peltasta exists. If you move it from Peltasta then no one is going to take Peltasta. Go and suffer with your bad choice of picking swordsman2.

Correct me if I’m wrong but I was informed that the main dual wield class (shinobi) was doing fine for DPS; either way I don’t see why this couldn’t apply to them either so long as they need the boost.

I would play as Peltasta because of it’s survivability and skills.
So yeah, your point is wrong.

That is a horrible idea, imagine no con lvl 250 dps specced sword barb2 high 2 dopple goon running around insisting they can tank… just no. If you plan to provoke then forcing a circle of pelt acts as a moron check otherwise you will simply have chickens with no hp running around trying to “kite” tank w/e the heck that is… shudder…

Giving Peltasta to C1 is like giving bread to a homeless, it will help in short term but the core problem still remains. Dps swordsmen will still be pretty bad as dps when compared to archers/wizzards, Peltasta will lose it’s main attractive and people who made a dps build exactly because they didn’t want to be tanks will be forced to be crappy tanks (thanks to their build not being made around that) in order to get party slots.

What should be done instead is making those dps swordsmen classes have more attractives for party play so they can join it as dps and not tanks.

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