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[Class] Official Sadhu Thread

Class and Rank Cleric
#385

I find the question quite annoying tbh because both have their merits. But if you must absolute get sadhu at r4 then go cleric2.

Just keep in mind that krivis2 is far better for leveling, but it will drastically limit how often you can use oob prior to rank 5 or 6.
Technically it’s better if you can party up 24/7, but the party mechanic can suddenly stop working entirely…

Cleric2 in contrast offers really good protection for sadhu’s so they can stick with oob. But since the divine might nerf it has been very annoying to level.
Also not all sadhu builds will need cleric2, but it’s still great to have.
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PS, fade combines well with oob because it’s auto attacks do not end it. Meaning enemies will attack something else nearby like a companion while it is active. (or at least it did, i hope it wasn’t changed) Definitely not going to work in pvp though.

#386

I agree and that’s why its such a hard decision to make.

Would going Cleric -> Krivis -> Cleric C2. Help with the leveling ?

Regarding OOB for Sadhu, I’m just wondering how much down time there’ll be without rotating between Safety Zone and Fade compared to Krivis C2 with Zaibas.

#387

cleric>cleric>krivis is painful - i wanted to cry at every flying mob quest pre-krivis.
definitely get krivis early if you plan on getting it at all

#388

Well krivis should level a bit quicker. But lvl 15-40 aren’t that bad to begin with.

The latter i’m not to sure about. lvl 80 - 127 did have mage tower as a cave type dungeon. High spawnrate and plenty of magic skills there. I don’t think zaibas will be enough to prevent getting hit there tbh.

#389

I see. I’m starting to feel like the pain early leveling for Cleric C2 and Krivis C1 will be worth it once Sadhu class is obtained.

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#390

For myself I went Cleric->Krivis->Krivis->Sadhu->Sadhu and last will be Druid. From personal experience if you’re in any type of giant mob situation and trying to go out of body then you’re just doing it wrong. Even taking another circle of Cleric for maybe 1 round of swings from 4-5 mobs is going to save you 1-3 seconds at most. By that time I’d already have killed the pack with Zaibas, Heal, Possession, Cure or even Astral Explosion without even considering using Out of Body.

To me Out of Body is a filler for damage and farming. If I can clear a spot and sit there running around then it is good…but if you are constantly getting mobbed all the time it’s just never going to work trying to rely on Safety Zone because there will always be around 40 seconds of down time. Whether or not you want to go INT or DEX is debatable but personally I like killing the mobs before even considering letting them hit me and worrying about dodging. After getting Possession it becomes much easier to just clear tons of mobs because it can be held for 10 seconds leaving only 10 second cool down because it starts exactly when you hit the button.

Funny thing is I haven’t really seen anyone mention going Priest 3 and using Stone Skin and Con/Spr which would give you tons of HP and Block along with being able to support fill in groups. The real interesting part is the Sadhu specialized weapon actually has increased damage based on SPR for Out of Body too. http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/203102/

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#391

I see all this talk about Mace vs Rods, but has anyone tried a wand?
Wands have physical, magic AND an element type.

They might require a rank in Bokor though?

#392

I’m 135 right now and played solo the whole time except for instanced dungeons. I barely use OOB while leveling. I always felt like Zaibas, Heal,Cure and Possession is enough to do my quests easy and quick. I only use OOB for bosses, field bosses and when Zaibas/Possession is on cooldown since I knew OOB isn’t that great for grinding high amount of monsters. And that’s the point for me - I can’t grind efficiently (possession changes a lot though) so I just avoid it. I don’t know how long this solution is going to work for me but I guess I could always just team up with people if I had to grind for exp.

#393

Because you can build sadhu’s for just spell damage or you can build for spelldamage + oob usage. Granted pure spell sadhu’s tend to at least get possession.

Int or dex is not even a debate. It’s a group of idiots insisting that a full dex build could work solely because they like the idea. They did not test it, they did not compare the downsides and upsides to both variations and they sure as hell don’t care about providing genuine advice to newcomers.

Likewise priest2/3 is not viable for sadhu as i have been saying for a very long time now. You don’t get damage spells, you don’t get enough defenses to use oob, only +40 dmg from sacrament works for oob and healing is better if you’re mobile.

Likewise block will not be enough to protect you even in a high spir build, not even in a ideal situation. Or check my recording if you don’t believe me: http://webm.host/4d168/
And that’s only if we ignore that block doesn’t work vs spells or specific attacks. (Burialers in penetence route bypass evasion/block entirely.)

And i haven’t actually seen anyone with a Kaloo hammer yet, likely because the mobs that drop the recipe aren’t accessible atm. Might drop of the lvl 130 dungeon, but it’s drop rates are rather talty atm.
Nor do we know if it’s 1 spr = 1 dmg bonus, only that it’s “proportional”.

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#394

It does actually drop because I’ve seen the recipe on the auction house before the servers took a dump. The weapon is weird honestly giving +10 Strength but adding SPR damage to Out of Body seems really off. Maybe it’s meant for the niche builds like that who take 1 into Sadhu and think Out of Body is the bees knees DPS machine I don’t know?

Anyways, I pretty much agree that unless you’re going some type of weird hybrid with Monk or Paladin and making use of actual melee there is no real point in trying to Dex stack just for evasion because you could just kill the mob before even trying to evade. As long as you’ve been investing into attribute damage and have a good weapon it shouldn’t be much of a problem.

Zaibas does kill things if you leave it in the right spot next to your body…or just in general. Not sure how well it would work only being Krivis 1 since it doesn’t AoE and lacks more ticks, but the circles will last until pretty much it goes off cool down if left untouched. You should kind of know when a mob is too big for Zaibas to handle then move in and use Astral Explosion to knock things away.

#395

So this Kaloo is pretty impossible to make apparently. For the recipe you need a rare mace that drops off these elites on the 5th floor of the mausoleum. Problem is that they only spawn three times every five minutes.

Yeah, good luck farming that.

#396

You could try being like all the people I’ve seen mysteriously pop up over night trying to buy the recipe all of a sudden. :joy:

#397

Got suckered into buying one costing me half my dosh.

So much regret. QQ

#398

Please do tell us how well it fairs though I’m pretty sure the fact that Rods upgrade giving more MATK every time nothing really is going to be better than one for pure casting. This would only be something considered for a niche hybrid build of like Priest in theory unless the SPR gave substantial gains and even then you’re neutering damage on anything else like Heal, Cure, Zaibas, ect.

#399

Yea its all gonna depend on what kind of damage you get out of the spr bonus but if its good it seems more like a weapon for a full support character with 1 rank in sadhu so they can use oob while they arnt healing.

#400

Only bought it because people are saying that maces have a hidden modifier that increase OoB damage

I should have stuck farming Mage Tower 4 for that rod.

#401

I doubt it and would test if the auction house hasn’t been down for about a week straight now. lmao

#402

if you manage to finish kaloo please let us know how spr effects your numbers.

#403

I went that route, didn’t really regret. Though it gets pretty annoying because I get hit while in OoB most of the time. Assuming no stat reset, krivis c2 would be the fastest route. I don’t think I can endure another c2 cleric from start, it’s just too boring and slow. (I went cleric c2 for 1st beta)

I was thinking of Cleric > Krivis 2 > Sadhu > Cleric for the extra safety wall levels. Or Cleric > Krivis 2 > Sadhu 3 > Druid. Use zaibas/heal/safety wall when there are leaks while in OoB. Although with the server lag and playing on laptop (keyboard lag), my control of the spirit form is terrible.

Another downside is that you cannot ensure protection 100% of the time. This makes placement of body becomes an issue so you minimise getting hit, it also encourages you to use the AoE spirit bomb when situation calls for it.

#404

Lol, agreed. I much rather use sadhu’s OoB as an additional arm to reach far away monsters. Also, though full Dex may sound ingenious, sticking to Cleric’s main attack stat would be better for future jobs anyway, since picking the sadhu path probably mean going down the magic attack DPS route.

I train some SPR just for the sake of saving money on pots and the scaling of some skills. =)