Sakane, Huerin, and all the other Kabbalists, I’m curious what your builds are. I’m not sure if you’ve already posted them. I tried to scroll up and look for them but I gave up. Hahaha
Here’s mine, with some explanation regarding the class combo. I’d really like to see yours too.
Well, I’m a Kabbalist aprendice, but there is mine:
Like you can see there is 1 point left in Oracle and 6 in Kabbalist, I’m waiting a rework of Change or Arcane Energy and saving the 6 points to Kabbalist C2.
Standard fair Chaplain/Kabbalist. With a major focus on Full-Support. I can also provide decent AoE Damage if there is also another support in the party.
LinkerChronos make my job so much easier as the Mobs are usually CC’d so I have free reign to throw down some damage.
@Jappa
I like it. Nice balance of DPS and Support. I feel it may have better damage if it went PD cause of the number of Debuffs you have access too. But it works and makes sense as a Kabbalist build as well.
@AHopz
Funny thing. I just recommended your exact build to someone else looking into Oracle/Kabbalist. The build is nice both in PvE and PvP. Lots of CC synergy with Merkabah Petrify and Bokor Hexing. It’s also one of the few ranged damage options to Clerics for PvP.
Exactly same as mine except I dropped some Laima to get my carve to Lv 2 so I have another filler skill when my main nukes are on cooldown (Laima doesn’t scale).
Like Sakane said I also saw this build better for PD, but I went with it anyway on mine due to my “theme” and I am loving it right now. it works and that’s what’s important
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PD suffered hard nerfs in Korea and even now is still the support insignia, there is the dps, the tank and the PD.
in R8 Shepard is coming and “rumors” talk bout a good sinergy whit PD, Kabalist is very bad at the moment and rank2 not gonna save him.
There must be a definition on what is bad to compare and know what is good, Kabbalist does a great job at this.
Sounds like someone is mad that this isn’t another PD discussion.
PD has a great single HoT with Healing Factor. Can do insane damage with Incinerate. And can prevent Status Effects with a myraid of skills. Additionally can spread Debuffs with Pandemic. It’s a nice kit, it does everything necessary for support and can be changed into a DPS build as well.
Kabbalist is the alternative, all I am doing is presenting it as an option to players who do not want to do PD or are looking for something different. (I don’t feel like I need to explain the merits as I did so already above).
Rumors are rumors. Until we see some skills for Sherpard, PD 2, & Kabbalist 2, I don’t see how this is as a valid point.
Through doing this thread, I’ve learned that builds vary from person to person. Not everyone wants to play “meta”. There doesn’t seem to be a right or wrong way to approach content due to the number of different compositions builds and variations.
I do not advocate every person who asks to play Kabbalist, it’s not realistic in some builds. I am pretty sure I even suggest more often than not that PD is a stronger pick in some builds. This thread isn’t a “You must play Kabbalist because it is strong/meta/OP”, this is an open discussion about the class where information can be shared about the class.
Now if you want to continue to say this thread is a “try-hard” discussion prove it using the the 470+ posts. Otherwise have a great day!
It seems to me that something about this thread has triggered you. Leaving me to believe that you would need to call the class “bad” and using a comparison that is very weak. Well I apologize if that is the case.
However unless you post something constructive then I do not see the merits of the previous posts in this thread
I think the only swap I would do, based on my preferences, is Krivis 1 > Diev 3 > Kabbalist. I think extra points into Carve Owl is really nice along with Ausrine for invulnerable. Divine Stigma is not difficult to maintain, but is a hassle to reapply in some cases. Tho… the higher level in Zaibas and Daino are pretty great.
Well don’t blame us if you buffed with all Priest’s buffs, healing factor, and 100% immunity to ailments and what? All of them gone because you get insta-killed by one skill: Revenge Sevenfold. You get Ein Sof not just for SP Regen, people underestimate HP buff for sure. Merkabah is filler but a good filler that even can deal half of Monk’s Energy Blast damage but larger AoE if used correctly. Other skills are basically PvE only purpose… The class is basically stand-alone class that any class can synergy to…
I personally have personal issues when it comes to PD: Incineration and Pandemic are only for specific class (lol please don’t tell me Priest 3 - PD is good). If you don’t pick those two, then only Healing Factor worth to max the skill points. Others are just good enough on level 1 unless you want to reduce gap between delay and duration. PD is basically just other Chaplain without Priest 3 restriction and potentially become a trap if you choose wrong class to synergy…
tldr: People just overhyped with PD. It is good class for sure but it is not the only option class. That’s just same as saying Cyro is superior than Pyro in any way but many people mis-used Cyro and got nerfed because many people using it, not because it’s OP… It becomes OP because people get dragged and use same build. Surely Krivis will get nerfed if there are 10 Krivis and everyone step on 50 Zaibas trap on respawn area…
Really excellent description. It is such a brilliant self description. A big thank you for trying hard to debunk this thread, although it doesn’t really succeed. Anyway what lead you to dislike kabbalist? Are you a kabbalist that feels short-changed and regret not following the meta-PD?
see that was the same reasoning for oracle xD lool (that and the counter spell skill) i decided i’ll prob make a (sadly 4th) cleric that will be pally, i am thinking maybe c2>p1/diev>pally3>kab but i am not fully sure, i am loving diev at the later levels due to the mobs i can kill xD where as i have a feeling i would always want a party with the pally :x.
I just didn’t want to follow the bandwagon of PD’s the only one that might go that route is my pvp healer :x c2>p3>oracle>pd otherwise im trying other ranks out.
I think my favorite builds for Kabb are the Diev 3, Bokor 3, or Pally 3 versions. Diev 3 is just great as it has Support, Damage and Debuffs and is easy to transition from Cleric 2. Bokor 3 is an interesting choice as well with all of the CC synergy and self-sustain and also transitions well from Cleric 2. Pally 3 is pretty nice as well with Heal boosts, Elemental Resistance, and Barrier, Rank 3 is a toss up as you can do either Krivis, Diev, or Priest 1 and have nice things from those dips.
I was never impressed by the PD. Mostly because of the debuffs overwriting each other as well as too many similar abilities in the kit.
I actually spent a long time debating on whether to go kabba or PD. Decided to go for Kabba mainly for Ein Sof, since it would go well with my Diev Zemyna. It’s quite a rare skill, since there are so few of us. PD skills are pretty easy to access, since they are all over the place.
Hahaha I feel you, man. It took me a while to finish it, too.
It's nice to see how Kabbalist fits in to so many different builds. It really is quite a versatile class.
I do hope they fix how RS gets cast on to everything that’s an “ally”. The bokor-kabba build looks promising, but it renders RS useless when the zombies are out. Also, I’ve seen my RS get cast on a pyromancer’s fireball. I mean, come on.
I’m pretty sure the 2 math skills only affects Kabbalist skills. As of right now, the only skill is Reduce Level. We’re assuming there will be more such skills in C2&C3 when Rank 8&9 comes out.