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[Class] Bokor Thread

yup, I was just pointing out why the skills are considerably weak while Tet Mamak La is so strong in comparison. Bwa Kayiman damage is really something later on, considering I’ve seen videos with Bokors around lvl 170-230 dealing over 3-5k crit damage per zombie that’s running through the enemy.

Given the low def of most high level monsters (around 400-700), it’s assumable that you could easily do like 7-10k crits or more per zombie, with a possible total of 20-22 zombies that each hits them for that damage when you run through the enemy while it can’t retaliate because of constant knockdown by your zombietrain… that way you could easily deal 150-400k damage per Bwa Kayiman, with ± no cooldown(channeling time = cooldown).

Speaking of Efficiency, though, I must say that currently Tet Mamak La is really the best skill, because it only requires 1 zombie (unless it’s a normal zombie it doesn’t even pick up your skulls) to deal damage which can be easily produced via Zombie Capsule.

However, there are certain builds/synergies that would profit greatly from going either INT or STR/DEX (Druids/Inquisitors/Plague Doctors e.g.) later on. Don’t forget that Bokor is just a Rank 3 class after all…

Guys need help in Stat distribution for a Pally Bokor, or an Anti Paladin as I call it.

Anti Paladin

The reason is why I made this build, is because Im an ex Role Player and I like to plays in mmos characters that liked from novels or Role Playing.
This build is perfect for me, I play as casual, allways as a Pick Up. The convination of Bokor with Cleric gives me the Invelnerability combo, as a selffish anti paladin would do. I like the more movement speed. And Inquisitor looks good, in terms of Role Playing, with an Evil Character. SO dont tell me that are better builds for Inquisitor because I allready now.

Zombies gets SPRx5 more Hp, how many SPR dou you think makes this worth? In my build I put 100 SPR. 500 more Hp seems nothing for a 300 level zombi.
Zombies STR and DEX have something to do with your STR and DEX? I know Inquisitor works better with DEX, but if your STR makes the zombi do more damage then I can accept do less dps as Inquisitor. Heck I have seen high SPR priest/inquisitors doing nice damage.

Finally I choose this 2 Options:
Option 1 SPR/CON 4:1 For magic Defense Barrier, Turn Undead, 1800 More HP in Zombies. More SP.
Option 2 60 CON, DEX/STR 2:1 Optimal DPS with critical and 1000 more Weight (thats Inquisitor Wheels are heavy, 25 each one)

I didnt read all the post because is too long and focused in INT bokor. If someone have suggestions I welcome it.

Remember the hidden mechanic of Kabba’s R7 killing the Mackangdal user 7 times?

IMC ninja changed the mechanic!

Now R7 just wont get triggered with the dmg of Mackangdal. That means you can also not use R7 on your friends co cancel their Mack dmg in the end anymore.

Mack dmg will trigger as usual, keeping th R7 Buff untouched.

does R7 work with zombies now?

I remember from some topics that R7 works with zombies but R7 can only cost on 5 targets.

I’m INT bokor, i dont know much about physical attack. But I love your idea, I planned to reroll a Bokor Monk but I dont have time to do this.

I think I will pick your 2nd choice.
The plan will be using Bwa kayiman to stun mob when all your skills are cooldown. But I recommend to max Bwa Kayiman. It will help you a lot in low rank. High level hex is not effiency.

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Only in PvP!

But you can R7 Necros skelletons and they will give back the full dmg in PvE.

Sounds a bit random to me tho

Hi guys, please i need some orientation about my bokor path, i’m planing to go Bokor2 and Diev2 > PD2, so…after reading a liltle here the main focus on bokor class was all about on Zombies only? what about Hex and Effigy lv? i should Max than all? Or the best are put 5/15 hex 15/15 Effigy ? My focus are full PvE content like Farming, Leveling and stuffs like that, my stats are INT and CON. i’ll let my build here http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/d2qbde12t4/

i’ll appreciate any tips

Just commenting on the Bokor part:

Personally at bokor2, i would max mack and get rid of zombie skills altogether. Bwa shines as a good cc when you have a longer train and zombies are best taken with Damballa.

If you really want zombies at C2 i would suggest:
Level 1 Zombify
Level 1 Tet
Level 5 Mack

Or

Level 4-5 Zombify
Level 1 Tet
Level 1 Bwa
Level 1 Mack
If you really want to cc with zombies

You can lower Hex to about 4 if you need extra points (my personal preference).

The only benefit i can see for taking level 1 zombify is to help pull aggro as each zombie can higher your aggro cap. Honestly dismissable since you have statues which also draw aggro. That’s just my two cents though.

i’m reaching bokor 2 atm, so to be more beneficial to zombies Hex 5/10 Effigy 10/10 Zombify 5/10 Mack 1 Tet 1 Bwa 1 are a good choice? or i should drop my Diev Build and go for Bokor 3? I just want to have a nice end game / solo gameplay without suffering in High Lv’s

Thnx for your advice !

I don’t recommend mixing these two. You’ll end up with weaker Effigy and Owls, while completely missing out on Damballa and Ausrine. If I were you, I’d pick one of them and build around it. I have both a Diev C3 and a Bokor C3, so I’ll share my thoughts on them.

If you like zombies, or plan to play mostly solo, Bokor C3 is a good choice. Not only does it give you Damballa, but it allows you to have more points in Zombify without sacrificing points from Effigy. Hexing can be spread to enemies around you with Pandemic, which makes Effigy a very strong skill to have. It’s best to max it, but even 10 points in it can work if you need the points elsewhere. Hexing doesn’t need more than 5 points if you’re taking PD later. Ogouveve also provides additional debuff for Incineration after you learn the attribute.

If you’re already at Bokor C2, I would suggest something like this;

  • Cleric 2 > Bokor 3 > Miko > Doctor 2

Miko is the most versatile R6 filler (or it will be once it’s released) but it can be swapped for something like Priest, Oracle, Krivis or even Diev if you do like the C1 statues and the playstyle of that class.

You could go Bokor C2 and only use zombies for Bwa when you need the CC, but then I feel there are better choices than Diev C2 to go with it.

If you don’t like zombies, want to party a lot later on or have plans for doing Earth Tower, Diev C3 is a much stronger support and utility class than Bokor. The build for it is very straightforward;

  • Cleric 2 > Diev 3 > Miko > Doctor 2

In this case I don’t recommend changing Miko for any other class because it’s shaping up to be the best fit for any Diev build if Clap turns out to work on statues.

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thnx for your advice, so with bokor 3 i should be able to do solo runs, leveling, farming etc…? and what should like my skills points in that case? could you help me in ? Thnx for your reply man.

Yes, in my experience you should be able to solo everything, excluding some party content such as Earth Tower and certain Saalus missions.

I can’t speak for 280+ areas as my Bokor has not reached R8 quite yet, but Plague Doctor should be able to carry you through those maps regardless of your previous class choices.

One thing to note is that World Tree may provide you with some breathing room in those new areas because some of the monsters are a cut above anything you’ve met before 280 and it’s the one big thing Diev C2 has going for it. Points in Carve Owl add not only damage, but also duration, so at C2 they will not last very long.

World Tree, however, is extremely useful in party play, and if you value that, this is another possible build variation in case you didn’t advance to Bokor C2 yet;

  • Cleric 2 > Bokor 1 > Diev 2 > Miko > Doctor 2

I’m only mentioning this because I assume you don’t want to reroll your character. It gives up Ausrine and it’s too much of a compromise for my taste. It relies on Clap extending the duration of Owls and World Tree, which is not officially confirmed. But it should be viable. It would give you a somewhat weaker Effigy which is nice for any PD build. Ultimately it’s for you to decide. I’d find it hard to give up circles in Bokor because they also add a lot and zombies are fun.

If you don’t want to use zombies, don’t go Bokor C3.

If you want Diev, I would advise you to reroll and go C3 in it without Bokor.

If you go ahead with Bokor C3, this is my build with some leeway for adjustments;

  • Hexing 5
  • Effigy 10-15
  • Tet 1 to control your zombies.
  • Zombify 5-11
  • Mackangdal 1-5
  • Bwa 1 for another way to control zombies and awesome CC.
  • Samediveve 0-10 depending on personal preference.
  • Ogouveve 1
  • Damballa 5

Also, welcome to the dark side!

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thanks a lot, you are helping me so F*** much, i’m bokor c2 already, i can tell you…i’m falling in love with my zombies <3 rofl so i’m thinking to go bokor c3, and after reading about skill distribution they are like yours in some ways, what would you say about R6 filler assuming miko won’t come in soon ?

Glad to hear it!

Miko may be worth waiting for. It is that good.

That said, other classes do provide some benefits that may be of interest. Here’s a brief overview;

Priest is picked mostly for Resurrection, which is not needed if you solo but comes in handy if you play with a party. Aspersion and Monstrance are not bad either. Oracle for Counter Spell and Prophecy, those will always remain useful. The class is good for farming materials as well. Diev for cooldown reduction on all skills and SP cost reduction to help with Effigy spam. You will never hear this from your travel agent, but Vakarine lets you travel around the world for free! Krivis for Daino if you party often and Zalciai to give your zombies a significat DPS boost. Unfortunately, both of those can be scrolled and I suspect zombie AA capabilities will fall off hard on 280+ maps anyway, turning them into a resource to be used for Bwa and Damballa. Druid as a DPS filler is not valid anymore, Miko will be better in every way. Pardoner is a niche choice that is not needed anymore.

Oracle is my second favourite if Miko is not your cup of tea.

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Considering mobs in Rank8 areas have 300K+ health, zombies won’t make a dent even if they keep at it all day… but you will probably hit the brick wall much sooner than that. Zombies also eat up your heal squares and interferes with your cure during boss nuke.

I uses the Bok-Pard-PD Build: Cleric 2 > Bokor 2 > Diev 1 > Pard 1 > PD2
It is incredibly effective in rank 8, and much cheaper than Taoist.

At rank 8, Lamia + Pardoner’s Discerning Evil would enable you to keep Incinerate + Vapor up 100% of time. While it is not as bursty as Zaibas, this will do substantial damage over time, and doesn’t have any problem if the boss move.

As for the why Diev1, Lamia says it all, especially with the long death vapor CD. I also wouldn’t underestimate the power of statues + Fade combo. Lamia statue makes for a great bait/tank to gather the trash for your vapor/incinerate.

As for the 1 rank in Pardoner, Discerning Evil alone deserve the rank, especially now that we have 2 dots. Keeping Incinerate and Death Vapor up 100% will substantially raise our dps.

In terms of effectiveness, I have no problem soloing Gesti in Cave 5 for the main quest using this build. I can solo 290 easily at lv300.

If you want Miko, I would trade in a rank of Bokor for it. Broom and Gohei’s utility is excellent… and Hamaya’s no hit count limit is a nice addition. It will be far superior to just 1 rank of Krivis/Priest/Druid.

And another feels the need to chime in without properly understanding the benefits of these subclasses to begin with.

I can’t even be arsed anymore, go ruin your own build. But don’t drag others along with you.

Bokor 2’s benefit is run speed, mack, and an optimal effigy bonus/sp usage ratio…

They are certainly nice stuff, but doesn’t help burn down the meaty mobs in rank 8 area. IMC just has to go and make old subclasses less functional.

Not the point.

A pd2 can already kill 300k health mobs with one incin & one vapors. Needs enhance ofc but still.
And that was prior to the agni necklace even, which almost doubles incin damage.

Discern Evil will literally only add damage vs 2k+ mdef mobs and bosses. Plus pd2 is still rubbish for world bosses due to its debuff overwrite issue.

Which gets even worse if you ever plan to pick up Plague Doctor3, since their duration but also base dmg is tied to skill level.

Dievdirby’s 20% cd reduction isn’t huge for a bokor/pd build either due to their quite good uptime. Most of these diev1/pd builds rarely use their statues in their videos.

To the contrary, Bokor3’s damballa is really good dmg and has already shown to hit 10k per hit with relative ease. And needs 1 zombie to work, sure it works better with more but it can spawn them itself.

Likewise Miko is a really good dmg option from the get go due to it’s base 1k dmg. And has no time requirements like pardoner so it tends to easily outperform it.

tl/dr:

  • Pardoner is more utillity oriented, benefits other players more then a pd build. It’s ok ish if you want pd2/pd3 though.

  • Dievdirby is much of the same. The cd reduction works mostly in the favor of your allies. Not a bad circle, but you won’t get much use out of it yourself.

  • Bokor3 needs zombies, and has downsides. But plenty of dmg to make up for it.

  • Miko is the best dmg option by far.

I would like a more support oriented bokor2/pd but I can’t think of an effective way of doing so. Play to its strengths, not to weaknesses you can’t patch up anyway or focusing to much on it’s old r7 performance.