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Class balance for a dead game. Can we talk about it? Can we? Do you still play Tree of Savior?

General Discussion
#101

Sadhu Paladin would actually become a thing again, +2500 mitigated into both Possession ticks and OoB while being protected sounds greato, if not just unbelivable. Sad thing is Possession has sort of fallen off with the R8 powercreep.

Hell no.
The niche it wants to fufill (anti-magic) is fine since the upper ranks of the game have magic like it’s the plague. It shouldn’t be a mobber considering it already has Barrier for that purpose. That’d be straight ridiculous and even more toxic of a situation than Swordies.

That and, Resist Elements has a weak taunt effect.

“How to destroy a game with cards, 2nd bout, ToS edition”

#102

[Card Equip Effect] +[Maximum★]% chance of reflecting 50% damage when attacking with Ice Property attacks

And

[Card Equip Effect] Ice property Resistance +[★]

Good enough.

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#103

Eh it was more towards the skills with big giant swords and spears to swing around. My bad, I didn’t specify.

For cc it depends really. Like if the cc broke after a hit like your sleep and freeze example (I think those are the norms for sleep and freeze tbh) then yeah they should be longer. But hard cc like TERA stun, where you are stuck for the whole duration, should be short.

ATM, I feel like the cc’s in this game don’t have any risk in using them. It’s just “place cc” and “watch the other person get destroyed.”

#104

It’s fine that they want to take pally as the anti magic approach, but they aren’t doing a good job at it. But no matter what game it is, I always see paladins as some kind of tank because almost every game has paladin as a tanky like class. Besides, having peltasta as the “only” legit tank rank is pretty… idk, boring, i guess.

#105

Game already full Copied doesn’t matter just make it ragnarok 3 already

#106

Swordsman is pretty bad comparing other classes atm.

There is no need to be a god, as you say.

Because you know, if i wanna be DPS, i could be swordsman, or i could be archer, besides certain doppel builds, archer is just a better choice.

Sounds more like you want other classes to stay on the top :stuck_out_tongue:

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#107

ToS stands more to Trickster Online 2 than Ragnarok 3.

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#108

archer is a better choice, they have less hp and defensive abilities but better dsmg.
swords have more hp and defence abilites, and less dmg
wizard is just broken
cleric can choose to be defensive with no damage or damage with no defence

#109

Guess why they are strong Damage Dealers? They don’t build SPR, that’s why.(are you seriously that dumb?)

But WIzards can be full CON and still do better damage than most Swordies and Archers.

Second, Cleric is way above Archer on Damage dealing rank 8(Plague C2, Inquisitor and even Taoist are way better at doing damage).

#110

Tunnel view right there, “Swordsmen are tanky, therefore they dont deserve to do dps that would make them attractive to parties as DPS role”

One biggest defensive features archer has is the distance of their attacks, which is a huge safety,

Swordsman on the other hand has to be upclose, and drop alot of hp anyway, by your logics might aswell just remove all dps classes and let tank classes stay.:confused:

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#111

The game is so unbalanced that WIzards are better tanks than Swordies,as far as damage mitigation goes:
Sleep
Lethargy
Sub Zero Shield
Swell Right Arm+Shield
Transpose.
Sorc and Necro many meat shields
Dark Theurge

#112

ward lul :v: also im looking to start a dragoon any advice?

#113

Well IMC did mention in one of the FAQ’s that swordsman will get a new exclusive armor type for more tankiness,

#114

hey, r8 swordsman dps is best single target right now ive heard. so theyre attractive as dps. they do more dmg than wizards and clerics (atleast clerics) i belive and wizards and clerics are attractive as dps

#115

Omg… just stop. To read your comments make my eyes bleed.
They have greater damage because of the mechanic of their skills. Weapon upgrades and skill enhancement.
You can freely spend points.

#116

Niches, yes. but it still has downtimes.

#117

It’s just Dragoon C2 and Fencer C3.They were nerfed already btw.

Murmillo is good because it brings older skills back to being relevant,but can only DPS on par if you have Shinobi.

#118

dont we all?

/20hjvbdfugbyfdsfdsfsdfsd

#119

Priority Pyramid:

1st : Nerf Kinos (again)

2nd : Nerf all type of Heals (maybe a card that gives -% heal debuff)

3rd : Apply Diminishing Returns for all CC

4rd : Nerf ALL Base attack, Buff ALL Scalling attack

5th : Solve the FPS issue and improve game connection

6th : Profit

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#120

No? other classes has rotations, dragoons needs to rely on a debuff.