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Class balance for a dead game. Can we talk about it? Can we? Do you still play Tree of Savior?

Give us swordmen some skill that can neglect ALL the magics then you can do whatever the fvck you want with your OP Subzero shield.

Give all skills a p-atk/m-atk modifier and take off skill damage (or reduce the skill damage to R1 tier damage)

Bam. All of a sudden, it’s way more balanced than it is right now.

Also, reduce all cc durations so it’s not longer than 10 seconds. In pvp and pve. Do the Same for anti-cc duration.

cc and anti cc cooldowns should be more closer to 2~4x the time of it’s duration while being at least 25 seconds long.

Also take off the auto tracking bs that are on skills.

Swordies skills should move them a bit. Also they need to come out faster. (Who dafug stays perfectly still while being able to swing a big ass sword at the same time). They also need to be able to be used while moving. (Cuz you can move while swinging stuff)

No.

What the fvck is this supposed to mean?

no paladin needs more buffs

Increase Resist Element’s duration to match its cooldown (135 seconds -> 180 seconds)

Give Barrier an attribute that gives +500 holy property attack damage if you stand inside it, up to level 5 at +2500 holy property attack damage

Give Barrier an attribute that increase magic defence by +100 per level if you stand inside it, up to level 5 at +500 magic defense

this makes the actual paladin barrier superior to the pardoner simony barrier, just like how priest blessing is better from a priest rather than a pardoner

These tbl players thinks this game is balanced for little arenas PvP. Try this doppel build at gvg, you will die so fast with such Power that even your soul will vanish from existance and your character will be deleted.

Killing some random boss means nothing, we are talking about PvP balance.

Show me a low level that is rank 5 at TBL. Wizard, or Archer, or swordsman :slight_smile:
Want my screenshot?

sure show me a screenshot, i dont need it. youre probably the only rank 5 cleric in that top 10. plus, your team probably carries you and you just heal and mackangdal in the back

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please fix paladin

Give pally taunt. Give better defensive skills.

IMC when i first saw pally i thought of a tank!!

Ragnarok online had it like that. All skills were %-based.
As long as the % values were balanced the system was quite nice and fair.

I disagree. I’d hate it if every skill usage moved me forward a bit, i’d be extremely when tanking bosses as you might move out of safety zones or rotate the boss a bit too much.

I think the problem is that there are many cc effects that keep the target cced despite the target recieving damage.
Sorry for taking RO again as an example, but i think there the frozen and sleep CC effect was perfectly balanced : you could CC large group of enemies for a long time, but you have to be careful because hitting them would free them from their CC effect, there was some more strategy involved, who to keep CCed and who to attack.

I think it’d be very interesting if TOSs sleep and frozen would also break on damage and only the really powerful/high rank CCs that also have drawbacks should keep targets in CC despite targets recieving damage (timestop : can’t do anything, but immune against most damage. Raise : able to recieve damage but count as flying target and dispelable, etc).

Ok you can say whatever you want, now show me archers, wizards and swordsmen at top 10 being rank 5.
Clerics are OP, need some nerfs in pvp situations.

just because 1 cleric is good enough to be in top 10 (probably beacause of carries) isnt enough for you to be requesting a nerf

While you are on your ā€œprobably because thisā€ or ā€œprobably because thatā€ i’m showing you actual proof.
Can you show me some data or at least 1 screenshot?
Check the pvp rankings, clerics are all over the place ;D

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Reduce subzero shield duration by half, double the cooldown, and lower the activation rate down to 10%. Then it would be somewhat balanced.

i dont have a screenshot, i never said that other classes would be in top 10, they probably are though, plus i cant even see their builds, o the rankiung list they only show the class icons, but i see an elementalist (probably rank 5) and a kino (probably rank 5)

still, youre trying to nerf clerics because you are a rank 5 (probably the only 1) i just looked and all the clerics i see in the top ranking are PD or kabbalist (rank 7)

no need for nerf just give us more immune cards like RO Example Immune Freeze card =]

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Now you’re just being completely ridiculous, Swordie and Archer can’t spend points in SPR,they are too ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  already having to balance out 3 stats.

You have no idea about how the game works,it seems.

No, they are not. And it seems you don’t know how to build. :c
Having to read some thing like this when Archer and Swordsmen are the top damage dealer at rank 8… sigh.