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Chaplain Build, is it worth investing more than 1 point on Sacrament?

Class and Rank Cleric
#1

So, i’m planning on going like this for my priest skills:

  • 10~15/15 - Aspersion
  • 1/10 - Monstrance
  • 3/15 - Blessing
  • 2/5 - Ressurection
  • ?/10 - Sacrament
  • ?/10 - Revive
  • 10/10 - Mass Heal
  • 0/5 - Exorcise
  • 5/5 - Stone Skin

I want to PvE and maybe do a little PvP when GvG comes out, and that’s the reason i’m considering bumping up revive, but at what cost? It’s not very clear to me what sacrament brings to the table, if it’s really worth investing points on it (Taking into account Last Rites buff, which i have no idea how much damage it increases)

Considering for starters i’m going with 15 Aspersion, i’d have 7 points left to use for revive and sacrament

I can also take some points from aspersion if sacrament turns out to be really important

#2

not that important

if you level sacrament, it’ll increase a lot of the sacarament dmg and last rites dmg, and will even increase a little your aspersion dmg

which will help on early~mid game

but in the end, the major damage income will be from aspersion, so you won’t lose that much dmg

~assuming you’re an int or spr clric~

#3

So going 15/15 Aspersion and something like 6/10 Revive and 3/10 sacrament or 9/10 revive 1/10 sacrament? I’m still on the fence about this

And my build is INT/CON/SPR, 4:1:1 or something around that

#4

I think 9/10 Revive 1/10 Sacrament is better.
1 Sacrament vs 3 Sacrament - not much different
6/10 Revive vs 9/10 Revive - can make more difference, especially in PvE

#5

second that - revive is a really strong skill - there is like no reason to put less points into it

also note @OP mass heal is harder to land than most people may think especially in pvp…im pve with randoms its horrible and frustrrating - you see people getting low but what do they do when you cast mass heal? they run out of range cause theyre afraid to die…and hard to say “hey boyz i got this no need to kite just tank all the way ill back you up” mass heal is so terrible right now - itll be more usefull if it got an aoe range around the caster

#6

I’m picturing something like a choke point where i can stay at a safe range and dish out heals and mass heals in PvP, i guess it will be difficult anyway but i think i want to max it out even so

#7

Maxing out is important.
But problem other people can be bad.
But that’s not a build problem. That’s a people problem.

#8

15 Asp
0 Monstrance
5 Bless
2 Res
5 Sac
3 Revive
10 Mass Heal
5 Stone Skin

Standard priest build for anyone going Chaplain. However, in all honesty, if you are on the same page as most of the people in your group or are in a group of friends, you could just completely skip Sac and pick up the 1 hour Sac buff in town from Pardoner shops. This gives you even more freedom.

And the reason you get at least 5 Sac is just to match the duration of Sac and Last Rights. It’s pointless to go any higher and any lower and you’ll be refreshing the buff at odd times and not always when LR is going down. It’s more of a QoL skill addition than anything.

#9

Not sure why everyone here is saying max aspersion and don’t put additional points in Sacrament. Each point in sacrament seems like a small increase, but then you have to double it due to last rites (sometimes it’s even more). Then you have to multiply that by the members in your party because it affects everyone, then you have to multiply half of the bonus damage by the number of hits in your party because that portion effects every attack. 1 point in sacrament ends up adding several times more damage to your party than 1 extra point in aspersion does to your auto attacks, even counting the 100% increase from the attribute.

You’d have to be solo basically all the time to make 1 point in aspersion superior DPS to 1 point in sacrament.

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#10

u wanna know why ppl who goes to chaplain wanna max expersion max?

it’s becos of Aspergillum.
and it’s mainly for priest who goes into spr builds.

Aspergillum : Fills the equipped weapon with holy water and makes it splash with every attack. The level of holy water being used is the same level as the caster’s

so u are practically making ur melee atk(which most priest will do 95% of the time)
an aoe splashing auto atker,and not forgetting buff from sacriment and last rite.
3 splashing AA .wynaut

and as for sacriment,it erally depend on how most ppl look at it.
it is a good buff,BUT the dmg boost from it is a flat dmg ,it isnt a % dmg
so it might be good for players who are using it till …let’s say 150?
so how about 200 and above then?
will the extra 100 dmg matter much?
nope,BUT! the extra hit count Does matter .that is why there is a debate on how many points one should invest in it.
personally i add mine to 5 JUST for the duration needed
3-5 is a decent number to consider.depending on wat other skills u wanna invest in.

#11

Chaplain is the only exception for the 1-point Aspersion recommendation.

#12

I know you take aspersion for aspergillim, but it adds 21 damage per point, 42 damage with maxed attribute and a negligible amount of defense. So each point into aspersion will increase your aspergillium hit by 42.

Each point in sacrament will increase your auto-attack by 12 (6 from sacrement hit, 6 from last rites hit). Except that 6 of that 12 affects all hits. Assuming you have 4 attacks which every chaplain will have, that increases the damage gain per hit to 30 per point in sacrament. Except wait there’s more! Sacrament buffs your entire party! It only takes a single other person auto attacking for that one point in sacrament to outdamage that one point in aspersion. If you have more than 1 other auto attacker it starts blowing it out of the water, and that’s not counting the bonus if anyone is below 50% HP.

I could see the argument for putting points in something like Mass Heal or Revive or Stone Skin over Sacrement because flat damage doesn’t scale very well late game, but if you are looking for straight damage sacrement is better point for point than aspersion unless you literally only solo.

#13

Chaplain can sustain his damage in endgame with Aspergillum??

#14

Just my non thorough opinion on this, so keep your hate at bay :slight_smile:

I have to agree with Rambler on this one, for party play Sacrament is the waaay better option to max since 40 damage in the form of a additional attack adds towards Last Rites 40 ( supposed ) extra holy attack making it 80 mixed over 2 attacks which then overlap once more to buff those 2 said attacks.
Thus making each additional attack coming from both Sacrament and Last Rites not be 40 each but 80 each since they apply to each other aswell.
That is 160 additional damage over 2 attacks not even counting the extra damage coming from Last Rites under 40% hp ( have not tested how much this is)

So for party play Sacrament all the way!

Me myself I have both Aspersion and Sacrament maxed out.

If I have made any mistakes in my post, anyone is welcome to point them out as long as they do so in a normal constructive matter!

#15

And what is the reasoning behind blessing 5 ?

#16

Okay maybe it’s bullsh*t… So tell me if I miss something. But because of the flat things we have isn’t it like this? :

So Aspersion gives 42 damage with enchance with every skill level.

Sacrament gives 3 holy and 3 normal/level. The holy part adds to every hit. So you have at least 4 hits. That’s 12+3 damage.

With 4 party members… let’s just count 1 hit of them and not necesarily an AA… That’s another 12 damage.

(If we consider that they attack with AA too it means most likely they have Sacrament and Last Rites on too so that would be 36 and also 12 normal attack from Sacrament.)

Now if Last Rites does the same and adds damage to everything. It actually doubles these little damages. Also Last Rites have that bonus at 40% HP.

So my conclusion is that actually Sacrament+Last Rites maybe can out damage Aspergillum IN PARTY skill-lvl-wise. But for solo Asperson is better and also Aspersion gives DEF bonus what is nice too.

Oh and 1 point on both is mandantory imo and that is not questionable.

You could also have both Sacrament and Aspersion maxed but that’s a lot of skill points and Revive and Mass Heal is too good imo.

What do you think am I wrong on this?

EDIT: A little extra factor is that with Sacrament the damage is actually spread on different enemies… it is not necessarily always bad… Also at bosses it is concentrated on 1 enemy mainly.

#17

I wish IMC gave us a better explanation how those calculations work.

Im Priest 2 lvl 13 already and i have 1 point on each skill so far because i can’t make up my mind hahahaha

#18

[quote=“Yazid, post:17, topic:200804, full:true”]
I wish IMC gave us a better explanation how those calculations work.

Im Priest 2 lvl 13 already and i have 1 point on each skill so far because i can’t make up my mind hahahaha
[/quote]Should start a ‘Priest2/Priest3 with ~10 unassigned skill points because clueless’ group with me…

#19

I’m about at the point where i’ll say “■■■■ it” and just spend those points recklessly and then if it sucks i’ll just buy a skill reset potion… Wait… maybe that’s IMC whole plan after all?

#20

EZ

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