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Cataphract build check

Class and Rank Swordsman
#41

Theres only rush and earthwave, and they have decent cds, dragoon is needed imo

#42

When you take into account Stabbing and rush’s duration the rotation actually helps quite a bit; I party with a Diev almost all the time so the CD’s are much easier for me to manage, when you consider that spear lunge doubles the damage of pierce attacks, I don’t see why you wouldn’t take Hop2, dragoon can be taken, as I’ve said in r8 and you’ll most likely be stronger for having it.

Lets break down the rotation.

Stabbing = 22 (-3 for the duration)
Pierce = 33
Spear Lunge = 2 every 24
Earth Wave = 12
Doom Spike = 10
Rush = 30 (-10 for the duration)

Earth Wave > Spear Lunge > Pierce > Stabbing > Doom Spike;
Generally by then Earth Wave is up or almost back up, Take the chance to buff if its not up,
Earth Wave > Rush;
by the time rush is done most of the skills CD will also be done and you can repeat the Rotation.

#43

It doesnt do good damage tho, Cata + Dragoon skills close the rotation and do very good damage

#44

And they’ll do double damage with spear lunge at r8 :smiley:

I really don’t agree with you man; Stabbing, Pierce and Doom Spike already do a large part of my DPS; a large part of your skills are pierce and both of the DPS skills you get from dragoon are also pierce, Hop2 will also boost the levels of Crit from Finesta and boost the levels of Pierece and Stabbing, making them stronger.

#45

For 6 seconds…
//20characters

#46

so +100% damage for 6 seconds or +20-30% damage for 7.5 seconds?

#47

Where are you getting +20-30%?

The damage skills of dragoon alone would surpass these +100% damage for 6secs

#48

Also note that stabbing is a great skill even if you only go HopC1, since this weapon exist

making each hit of stabbing actually hit 3 time. and with concentrate :slight_smile: it’s a good combo together

#49

Assuming the damage bonus from GB; again, why not both? you get Dragoon 1 rank later and you’re set.
I highly doubt that the damage skills from Dragoon will do enough damage to compete with double damage Doom spike, Pierce and Stabbing

#50

We disagree in that point, i believe dragoon damage skills will do.

#51

Lets calculate!

Hop C1
Pierce 414 x 3 = 1242
Stabbing 166 x 11 = 1826
Doom Spike 1813

Hop C2
Pierce 619 x 4 (boss attribute) x 2 = 4952
Stabbing 282 x2 x 11 = 6204
Doom Spike 1813 x 2 = 3626

That is a 9,901 difference to make up; now lets see what Dragoon offers.
Gae Bulg = 3812
Serpentine = 926
Dragontooth = 716
5454

Now you could argue with GB boosting all damage, but from what I understand this boost is unreliable, its okay on some monsters but barely noticeable on others; I’d rather go with the sure thing and then get Dragoon later but also have them be buffed by spear lunge, And please don’t forget that godly +50 crit over hop c1 allowing you to get much more STR.

#52

I dont see myself being able to stab 11 times, then another 11 times vs a group of high level mobs, plus i dont need to worry about using a combo everytime i use my spear lunge, seems just easier to just play dragoon, less things to worry.

#53

its x2 because of spear lunge :stuck_out_tongue:

Again if its not for you, that’s fine, I’m gonna be doing this and then when r8 comes I will likely go dragoon.

#54

Thats the best duelist 1v1 PVP, I’ve rerolled a cata many times and by far I would suggest this to any new catas. I’m personally sitting on 850+ evasion when I pop guardian and any hits they do land get blocked if I have my shield. At no cost to all the goodies Cata has to offer. This build, like any, is best utilized with a skilled player that knows how to take full advantage of cata’s movement speed. I was once greedy to put dragoon at the top of this tree, like a christmas ornament but learned to love Cata. In the right hands cataphract is really powerful. It just requires a lot more skill for the same results than other classes.

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#55

so you use steed charge for initiating knockdown?
why not taking lv 3 Bash?

is rim blow good for pvp?
knockback makes the enemy away for us so we have to chase

#56

steed charge I rarely use. you’ll find yourself opening with doomspike/earthwave/rush while being buffed. Watch for opponent buffs and try and wait them out if you can, thats what your movespeeds for hehe.

though there are times it comes in hand, it has an extra long knockdown range and keeps them down for a good 2 seconds it seems. Enough time to follow up and get 4-5 stabs in with stabbing if you’re feeling brave.

The bash is a good utility skill, I’ll say I rarely find a time where I would prefer it over another skill in a 1v1 pvp duel setting. Though it definitely comes in handly when all other cd’s are down and you are in a pinch.

#58

Everyone didn’t realize that the pelt attribute skills do give x% of max hp while using a shield with Swash Buckling + Guardian buffs right? So is still a good choice for tanking as cata in late game dungeon content.

I am lv164 cata c2 now only have 15k max hp, but when I start using shield + defensive buffs (as above shown) I am suprise I was able to reach 20k-22k+ max hp. Which in term is good for a temporarily tank situation.

#59

I too am conflict about going either hoplite c2 or dragoon.
Frankly speaking instead of seeing which does more dmg by numbers. Lets see it in a different view.

Hoplite c2 finestra give more tanking ability.

#60

among all the dragoon skills

Which are the ones that is least desireable?

I m having a conflict right now.

thinking of maxing tooth, soar and gae and dropping serp out since i already have stabbing at hoplite

#61

Quick check, is cata’s earth wave 1 hit 1.5k damage? or it deal multiple hit and ends up with 1.5k damage?