Them bonuses for 2h sword are absolutely pathetic. Just what were they thinking?
Whatās the holy proc gonna do if elements dont apply in TBL? bonus damage if thereās sacra from priests?
I havenāt really seen Amulets around, but those effects seem like they should work right?.. Itās nice to balance out equipment, but a bit boring too.
This post was flagged by the community and is temporarily hidden.
Our blood soaked buddy says so. Iām curious about amulets, are they even around? would be fun to tag them all over your EQ and see which take effect in TBL xD
FUNFUNFUN http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/?item_name=amulet&page=2
How about stacking 3 of these on your Cata C3ā¦ bloody Rush FTW.
i think those were discarded in the course of development and weāll not see them in-game ever
ps. maven necklace implemented? looks better than nothing.
Yes
I actually donāt know if itās implemented, just saw it on the list
I think we can get back on topic here. Swash B HP boost is too great in there to pass on (SB - HP Potion or heal right to start).
The shields effect on block is outstanding too, today 2 archers spamming, Trot and PB on cooldown and I got enough consequent blocks to escape without using my guard stance.
Brandish adds pretty much 100 block pen. including the STR buff and the AOE is good for caltrops while waiting for a heal, buff or cooldown.
So you guys tell me, whatās your choice now?
Yes yes. I am actually saving to buy that overuped brandish in my server right now. Coz you can now use gears in tbl. I can finallu have a use on my peltasta rank. That is my original build shielded catagoon.
1 Like
well, can i be frank with you? right now the only situation where i see brandish as a good option is if the class is only at rank6 and hoplite and i will explain why.
all stats from brandish is topnotch like you have said and boost damage against large enemies and add a little block penetration with the str, but by being a one hand spear it make everything turn to waste and will explain why:
first: the damage; once you reach dragoon 2hand spear passive plus the attribute from it, will out class the bonus in damage given by brandish because 20% from 2hand spear would be a lot better than a flat 300 damage that brandish has, and this is not even talking about the difference in base damage.
second: block penetration i will say this, even if the stats does not go up when you equip a 2hand spear , the passive from cata is working, there is multiple tests made by players and i my self have made some, and i can assure you that is working.
so once we remove those two points everything that brandish as to offer becomes garbage once you put it against a 2handspear.
now why i have said 2 hand spear when you clearly are talking about onehand, simple because the status you have point out in one handspear (brandish) can be far outclassed by any 2hand spear, even the most garbage out there, so there is simple no reason to use a brandish, because when you need it the most, you can simple swap and use 2handspear in the their place.
you will never need to do damage in PVP with a one hand spear, you can always swap back to two hand when the time to do damage.
so i would suggest you to simple have a onehandspear zegaspear, with a finestra gem, since it is very cheap you do not even need to farm the gem, just find someone selling the gem and give the spear so them can equip in the zega spear, so you can buff finestra with 100% uptime and remember you do not need the splash attribute for finestra in PVP so the extra blockrate+evasion will do fair more good, when you need the shield with guard., this is the only tip i can give, since iām talking here about experience, i already have fought in top10 of my server, and right now iām in top13, i will even post the SS so you can see my current rank of the week and of course i have blanked out my teamname.
to finish, if you are truly only hoplite at rank6, brandish can do somegood but once you reach dragoon, there is simple no need to keep it, even for PVE since critical rate and medium target damage from megas can be better in more situations and when you need to dish out damage on bosses, just swap to a good 2hand.
edit: before anyone come saying that i have wrote is wrong and that brandish is good in X or Y case; i will say again brandish is only GOOD if you are āonlyā hoplite, so builds with hop2-corsair2-shinobi for example brandish would be a really good weapon to have.
Iām always Frank, but Iāll be frank with you, too.
So far so good, I have 1 rank in hop.
20% is only against non-boss, large monsters. This thread is specific to PvP (for which I usually carry a good 2h spear)
Never have I ever said thatās not the case. I just said the 100+ block pen from Brandish makes up for not getting the cata attribute block pen. And this I tested.
Itās definitely not as good, but the main difference is base damage which isnāt a big deal in PvP since our skills donāt use % multipliers. I switch to my 2h spear in PvP when I have ausrine up (The only time I donāt need the extra def/hp)
Pretty awesome to hear success stories from fellow swordies. I myself was on a good run this week, hitting 1110 or so on Wednesday, then settling to 1050 where I am currently (a few losses without cleric or against multiple clerics, and two more I lost due to opponents just outplaying me and my team lol). Finiestra block isnāt a big deal and hop skills are my least used in there. I do make sure I have Fin up when facing archers but the 15sec downtime isnāt that bad. Also, Finiestra doesnāt give evasion, it takes it away. Stabbing gives evasion.
For boss fights I prepare and swap between Galin for stabbing, and Catacombs for every other skill.
Again, this thread very specifically says for PvP. Brandish is also an excellent choice for solo farming due to the AoE, but itās bad in general PvE.
As I mentioned early, the only real tradeoff is base damage, but I get shield defense, extra block, anti-rush āCā key guard, extra-long knockback (umbo, although I rarely use it), 1500HP from my poor manās beetleback, and 25% extra HP from swash attribute I start the match with 30K HP, 33K if a cleric throws a heal at start (which I ask for) at only 85 con. I lose 200 attack for all that, tops.
Now, this is working real fine for me in PvP so far, but Iām just a Rank 6 cata c3. Dragoon will allow me to keep going with 1h spear, but I plan to go Lancer later on, and then 1H spear will no longer do the trick.
dragon have 10% for bosses plus any 2hand spear already have a extra 10%, so it would become 20% against bosses .
this is why i have said 20%.
I know that the thread is for pvp, i only have mention one thing about PVE that was the dragon attribute but the entire rest of the post is about PVP.
about onehandspear- shield i have even said, that would be better for you to use a zegas spear with a finestra gem, for that 100% uptime on finestra in pvp, where would give 6% of block plus the critical rate but is up to you, because the entire point of my post was that when you are with shield plus one hand spear, there is not need to invest in damage, is better to use other things that can offer better defensive stats, like the block rate from finestra with zegas but by the end of it if it is working for you is fine, i was just giving my 2cents on the topic about the weapon for PVP because at least for me when i put shield i want defense, not atk.
edit: ā ā ā ā just lost 2 matches in a row, 
i out of top20 for the day it seems :(.
2 cleric in the other team and 0 in mine, and the other one was a 5x5 with cleric in both teams, but they won :(.
1 Like
When I wear a shield, I still want decent attack. Donāt get me wrong, I appreciate your insight, but Iām giving my rebuttal to your point of view. IMO, thatās what brandish is for, compromising a bit on attack (no more than a bit), while allowing to gear up (and skill up) for defense. Man, you should really try it one of these days (preferably when youāre not doing great in rankings) and use that sweet swash buckling before running off your baseā¦ I can imagine that face on the kino who went through all the trouble of lifting me and having me beat up with all his might just to see me run away 15 seconds later with 10% HP and get a heal, while their team lost their cleric.
When it works, it works beautifully, when it doesnāt itās not much a difference.
i see, if you want the trade defense for atk, is a fine thing to do.
about the testing i do not think i will go for it, well if you are in silute and can lend me the spear i may try, haha.
because right now iām in the middle of stopping playing or reroll so i do not have the time to farm the money for it.
i know since the preview for rank8 that nothing good would happen to me with this serpentine buff, but i still played but now i 'm really sad.
because i love cata but the cata i like to play is not the same as everyone i think, i love to use shield in Pve and run with trot with the stance where he hold the shield in the front and so on but now with the release of rank8 i took myself to do some math, i have found that MY catagoon DPS will fall up to 80% in burst damage, if you compare it with a hop2dragoon, so i do not know if i keep it, or stop playing because i already have a fencer2 and a dragoon with sw3 as well, so iām really tired to lvl up again and once you go trot15 you can not go back to walk without it.
I farmed the recipe and mats. Bought the shinbones for 10k each though. Sweat and blood lol.
Whatās your build? It doesnāt sound bad enough to have to rerollā¦ Isnāt the shield in front the āwindow stanceā from finiestra? Iām pelt/hop/cat3 and my take on things is āI have a life ahead of meā lol, the build has been good and I wouldnāt reroll tbh, even though I feel like Iām missing out by not having restrain.
yeah, it is the same build as well.
but the thing is, i do not like to use 2hand spear in pve, together with spear lunge i have already accepted the lost of damage when i started this new cata, since i had a sw3cata3dragoon before but now with those skills having so huge bonus, the damage difference with spear lunge+ sepertine debuff will create a rift so great that will be impossible for us catagoon to surpass , even more for me that like i said i would be losing the debuff for 2hand spear as well, to make it simple the lost of damage now, is not something that i can accept , since my new cata is for PVE ,not pvp.
in pvp i do not have a problem in using 2hand spears, and to be true spear lunge is so short to make a effect but when i think about PVE, it truly make me sad.
Well, you have a good base for PvP and decent PvP as long as you donāt expect top DPS every time. No biggie, really, thereās a TON of content ahead so hybrid like that would probably give you more choices on what to do later on.
Shinbones for only 10k? In our server I hunted and managed to get 6 pcs of it in 1 hour. Hehe. Then decided I dont need it and sold it for 250kea.hehehe
How does that work for you? As a Corsair, it doesnāt work for me since Restrain procs even if I dodge and some hits will pen my block and Rush duration is so long that enemy team will have enough time to cast spells and I wonāt be able to leave the area due to stun and slow from Rush. To make things worse, smart Catas will impale will as soon as Rush ends.
Impale is the anti rush.