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Cataphract 1hand spear PvP viability

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

Ok I’ve changed the subject to continue discussing what the thread turned into.

1 hand spear on a Cataphract in PvP. Have you tried it? what’s your opinion on it? Best spears to use, stat balance etc…

Cons so far:

  • Less damage
  • A little less reach, at least for auto attacks
  • Lower block pen (with most spears)

Pros:

  • Additional HP from Swash (25% + shield hp/con)
  • Higher physical def and block
  • Can use “C” guard in very specific scenarios

I know you can swap easily, but for that you have to be prepared with a 1 hand PvP ready set.

Cataphracts, Dragoons, Hoplites.

This is assuming you do find a shield worth using, so that the additional damage from 2h spears isn’t really worth it. Range isn’t really a big difference between 5 and 10either (probably half a heal tile length). Dragoon’s attack bonus for 2hS works only on large targets, and Cataphract’s block pen bonus does not seem to change when using 2hS. So we’re talking what? 150base attack? Our skills don’t scale with base attack, really.

Since the additional damage on medium sized targets from Magas Spear doesn’t apply against other players, and crit rate downscales at higher levels, the stats on Brandish seem quite convenient for PvP. How much of it actually applies in there though? I’m not sure.

What’s your choice for TBL on these classes? All I had before was a Galin Trident (+6, still deals more damage on bosses thanks to stabbing and eventually dragoon’s skills, since Cata’s skills aren’t really multi-hit), now I have my pick between:

  • Brandish (+6, lost 1 potential with the first silver anvil -_-)
  • Elements (+5, no more monies to try, but I guess it works nice with bless/sac if there’s a priest) and
  • Catacombs (no ups, cuz no monies).
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#2

Use Zega Spear (Hop skills Lv +2). Most equipment stats don’t apply, only procs and skill level increase do. EDIT: Oh and also Animus reducing HP recovery, but not the m.amp inc.

Default items in TBL:

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#3

IMO (thought not 1H, but if you go Dragoon then good):

  • 33% chance to lower an enemy’s Stamina by stat down 1 and inflict [Cripple] for 30 seconds
  • Stacking [Cripple] 10 times will lower a target’s movement speed by stat down 20 for 10 seconds

Someone in another thread said that proc effects work. Bonus stats, substats (crit rate, AOE atk ratio, etc.) and elemental property atk doesn’t.

This should be easily stacked using Rush. Just theorycraft though as I haven’t really seen it used in action.

Freaking rare (cube drop from boss Mirtis) and could be pricey AF.

Wielding shield is only good if you have a rank in pelt and/or have high CON (?).

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#4

Been saving or trying to hunt for that brandish since yesterday… hehe if my computation is correct brandish atk power on tbl is 280. Catacomb is 412. That is only 132 atk. For having a 1850 block defense and if your using a sage wall like me. + 120 mdef. So… brandish + sagewall > catacomb pike in tbl

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#5

Does the mdef work in TBL?

@Biskee 1 rank in Peltasta, ~100 CON. The cripple is interesting but I’ve never seen one. Chasing slowed down enemies sounds like a cata dream though lol

@tampon only 1 rank in Hoplite, idt it makes up for the low attack

Do gem stats work there too?

#6

MDEF increase from Sage Wall does not work in TBL. The only shield that makes a difference compared to every other shield is Aias with its 8% chance to reduce damage by 50%. Meteor’s proc also works but it barely activates with just 1% chance.

Brandish, Firnas, Maga Spear, Zega Spear, Spontoon all give you the same amount of attack though. It’s just that Zega gives you +2 on your Hoplite skills, including Finestra.

Not sure. Didn’t really pay attention to that. Will check soon

#7

Woah just bought a cheap 1 potential sage wall for tbl. Sigh.

Gems dont work in tbl only monster gems. Already confirmed it.

#8

So would that mean Galin Trident is one of the best, if not the best 2hS for a cata? LOL , if the atk is the same, +1 on all cata skills is pretty beast.

#9

Stat difference with Maga Spear vs Zega Spear

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(no change)

The only thing that changes is that I get +2 on my Hoplite skill levels with Zega

I guess 2nd best. Best would probably be Cripple, mentioned by @Biskee

#10

So brandish is just plain 209 atk in tbl?

so this is better then?

I am currently using that. So I might not buy brandish anymore. expensive and not usable in tbl. in Pve catacombs pike is still the best.

#11

All the one-hand spears get the stats of this item

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#12

So Guardsman shield is the second best shied ? 102 def. coz I just checked it. my pdef increases by 102 if I wear it…

You can clearly see who favors tbl. even equips lol. There are no mdef increasing equips in tbl + wizard skills are already so OP. WTF! then almost all gears for pdef works? wtf is the developer of this game thinking??? we all be wizards?

#13

So what are the best necklace and bracelets??

max peta necklace …no attributes. sissel for bracelets?

#14

No, the Defense, Physical Attack, Magic Attack, HP, Damage against Size/Armour-type Modifier etc. do not matter at all in TBL.

Using a level 1 shield will give you the same amount of defense as a Lv220 shield

All the necklaces have the same amount of MDEF in TBL, same as bracelets. Sissel’s Frenzy proc works in TBL though, so does Animus’s HP Recovery Reduction (but not the M.AMP inc.). Max Peta’s +14 stats do not work either

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#15

ok. I will recheck that again tomorrow. Maybe it is just my imagination.

how about the cafrisun set? So all items in TBL are plate set?If you use for example that cafrisun leather set. it will still carry the plate set? but that additonal earth property might work??

#16

Oh sorry. I think when you’re wearing Leather Armours, they take the stats of the Veteran Set, and for Cloth it’s the Librarian Set. Additional Earth Property also does not work in TBL. Tested it already

#17

so what about attributes? armor type attributes work? (extra hp from plate set and damage reduction, for example)

Otherwise we should just be looking for the armor pieces with the most procs or special weird effects to annoyance only O.O

Does elemental damage (elements, arde) apply in there? What about extra hits from cafrisun set? Oh my, this setting is interesting and annoying at the same time lol

#18

Yes, these work

No

Also no

#19

So which equip sets or other stuff have procs or stats we can use in TBL, since item level, upgrades, gems and other stuff don’t matter. Even a lvl1 eq with a fun proc would do great in there xD

#20

##One-handed Sword:

  • Shark Cutter
  • 5% chance to inflict [Bleeding] for 30 seconds on enemies when using a skill attack
  • A basic attack will hit 5 successive times every 5 times you apply [Bleeding] to enemies
  • Catacombs Blade
  • Deals additional damage equal to 50% of an enemy’s block value when using a basic attack
  • Durandal
  • Increases all Swordsman skill levels by 2

##Two-handed Sword:

  • Spell Breaker
  • 1.5% chance to create a protection shield that prevents 2380 damage for 30 seconds when receiving a magic attack
  • Wizard Slayer
  • 2% chance to increase magic defense for 15 seconds after receiving magic damage
  • Seimos Two-handed Sword
  • 2% chance to deal additional damage equal to the amount of your SP recovery rate

##One-handed Spear:

  • Zega Spear
  • Increases all Hoplite skill levels by 2
  • Geras Spear
  • Increases damage by 100% when using [Spear Throw]

##Two-handed Spear:

  • Cripple
  • 33% chance to lower an enemy’s Stamina by - 1 and inflict [Cripple] for 30 seconds
  • Stacking [Cripple] 10 times will lower a target’s movement speed by - 20 for 10 seconds
  • Galin Trident
  • Increases all Cataphract skill levels by 1
  • Lydeka
  • 1% chance to reduce an enemy’s movement speed for 10 seconds
  • Catacombs Pike
  • 235 additional damage when using [Impaler]
  • Plunger
  • 3% chance to inflict [Decay] on an enemy for 20 seconds

##Rapier:

  • Venier
  • All Fencer skill levels + 2
  • 3% chance to inflict additional Holy property attacks
  • Duelist
  • All Fencer skills level +1

#Mace:

  • Krausas Mace
  • Applies an additional bonus damage to [Effigy] upon the 2nd attack
  • Suncus Maul
  • Increases all Monk skill levels by 2
  • Iron Fist
  • Blocking an enemy’s attack will reduce its defense by - 84 for 60 seconds
  • Kaloo Hammer
  • Increases basic attack of [Out of Body] equal to your amount of SPR
  • Vubbe Morning Star
  • 3% chance to inflict [Stun] on an enemy for 3 seconds
  • Toy Hammer
  • Causes an explosion after every 10th consecutive attack.

##Rod:

  • Ignition
  • 5% chance to inflict [Burn] on an enemy for 10 seconds
  • Ice Rod
  • Increases all Cryomancer skill levels by 1
  • Magic Rod
  • Increases the Earthquake skill level by 3

##Staff:

  • Audra
  • Increases all Cryomancer skill levels by 2
  • 15% chance to inflict [Freeze] on an enemy for 3 seconds when using an Ice property skill
  • Ludas Staff
  • Increases all Pyromancer skill levels by 1
  • Karsto Staff
  • Hell Breath has a 20% chance to inflict [Burn] on an enemy for 10 seconds
  • Saltas Staff
  • [Ice Blast] skill level +3

##Bow:

  • Marksman
  • Attacks will reduce an enemy’s critical resistance by - 8 for 20 seconds (Max Stacks: 20)
  • Snake Bow
  • 2% chance to inflict [Poison] on an enemy for 20 seconds with a basic attack
  • Savage Bow
  • Increases all Hunter skill levels by 2

##Crossbow:

  • Didel Grand Cross
  • All Quarrel Shooter skill levels + 2
  • Grand Cross
  • All Quarrel Shooter skill levels + 2
  • Grave Crossbow
  • [Backstab] skill level + 3
  • Karacha Crossbow + Karacha Dagger (set)
  • Increases [Backstab] damage by 3x when attacking an enemy from behind

##Rifle:

  • Lolopanther Musket
  • All Musketeer skill levels + 2
  • Pensara Musket
  • [Covering Fire] skill level + 1

##Shield:

  • Aias
  • 8% chance to reduce damage by 50% when hit
  • Meteor
  • 1% chance to regenerate 200 HP every second for 5 seconds when taking damage

##Dagger:

  • Venom
  • [Poison Effect] 2% chance to inflict poison that deals damage over 10 seconds on an enemy when attacking with a dagger
  • Karacha Dagger + Karacha Crossbow (set)
  • Increases [Backstab] damage by 3x when attacking an enemy from

##Pistol:

  • Lolopanther Pistol
  • All Schwarzer Reiter skill levels + 1
  • Handgun
  • All Schwarzer Reiter skill levels + 1

##Cannon:

  • N/A

##Necklace:

  • Maven Necklace
  • When taking magic damage, increases magic defense by + 6 and reduces magic physical defense by - 6 for 30 seconds (Max Stacks: 20)
  • Animus
  • Reduces basic HP recovery to 0
  • Electus
  • [Lightning Shock Effect] 15% chance to deal 405 magic damage on enemies when taking damage from Lightning property attacks

##Bracelet:

  • Sissel Bracelet
  • Triggers [Frenzy] for 5 seconds when an enemy avoids your attack
  • Increases physical attack by 235, movement speed by 10 and reduces physical defense by 88 for 30 seconds when stacking [Frenzy] 8 times
  • Pore + Pora (set)
    • 6 magic defense, - 6 physical defense for 30 seconds with every basic and physical attack
  • Increases Holy and Dark property attack equal to 7.5% magic defense for 10 seconds when stacked 20 times

##Armors:

  • Earth Plate Set
  • Gives additional Earth property damage when receiving Earth property attacks
  • Leather Earth Set
  • Gives additional Earth property damage when receiving Earth property attacks
  • Earth Set (cloth)
  • Gives additional Earth property damage when receiving Earth property attacks
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