Call for an official poll and why it matters

Skyfire · May 3, 2016, 11:29pm

I’m going to go ahead and repost this in its own thread because I think it is important.

The forum community that visits the forums every day and is generally knowledgeable about the game doesn’t make mistakes with their builds and doesn’t want a reset because it would only help others and not them? How surprising! Many will change their tune when real balance patches start hitting our version and they suddenly realize that they need the reset to fix problems they didn’t (and couldn’t) plan for, but that’s going to take some time.

If you want to survey the whole playerbase, it has to be done through IMC and their official channels. Ideally it would be an in-game poll that everyone sees and participates in. Then we can go from there and talk about the benefits and the drawbacks of a reset. Asking here will always yield the kind of biased poll results you got and stifle any discussion before it can take off and become constructive.

It also needs to be a little more complex than a simple yes/no question. I would vote for a limited reset that gives people a sense of security going forward, because I think that’s a great idea, but I would vote against a full and easy reset that only encourages laziness. Sadly, the distinction between the two is lost on most and so we have to wade through a tribe of angry baboons screaming for no reset every time the question is brought up.

People on the forums are afraid that the game will turn too casual, and that’s certainly a valid concern, but they stop there and don’t think any further. The rigidity of the class system will become a very real problem in the near future. Covering our eyes and wishing the problem away is not going to work.

IMC, can you give us an official and comprehensive poll on this issue and a moderated thread to have a civil discussion about it?

@STAFF_John @Staff_Julie @STAFF_Ethan

thebloodyaugust · May 3, 2016, 2:24pm

Stop with the spam god damn we have this topic 100 times already.

bephamoth · May 3, 2016, 2:25pm

And another sensless topic awake.

Nirimetus · May 3, 2016, 2:26pm

I already gave up on these people.

I just put in mute and walk away lol.

kisko.sam · May 3, 2016, 2:26pm

The last poll I saw here was 85% no. I think your in the minority dude.

Skyfire · May 3, 2016, 2:27pm

This is not that kind of topic. Read before you reply, mmkay?

soldatazur · May 3, 2016, 2:29pm

You are perfectly illustrating what OP is saying, good job.

thebloodyaugust · May 3, 2016, 2:30pm

Get over your self its the same topic. Also that polls current results say no which i agree with. But unfortunately that poll is garbage as you can vote as many times as you want so its not worth a damn.

bephamoth · May 3, 2016, 2:40pm

«Let’s revamp the whole class mechanics of our game because some guys* can’t manage to build decently their character or reroll when they want to play a different class!»

I m sure IMC team will have this kind of awesome idea.

soldatazur · May 3, 2016, 2:53pm

The game itself is lacking of clear descriptions and you don’t have an in game review of ALL classes with ALL skills, so you can’t only blame players. Maybe reset class is not the solution, but this is the way to tell there’s a problem in the design of the game. This is cool to say yes or no to polls but it’s much better to find solutions.

Just sayin you think you’ll never need reset class on a character which can handle 10 classes and many of them not already released meh.

Edit : I personnaly always read tons of informations in that type of game (databases from fans), does it mean it’s really bad if they add those informations into the game ? I don’t think so. And what about players who are just not like me/us ?

Skyfire · May 3, 2016, 2:52pm

Your reading comprehension seems to be malfunctioning today, allow me to help you out.

This thread is not asking for class reset. It is asking for a proper poll on it and a place to discuss the matter and the implications for the game’s future in a polite and constructive way. See the difference?

Fixed it for you.

i_Hub · May 3, 2016, 2:55pm

Polls were made and NOs were given. But they continue to spam the forum with this topic.

Jintello · May 3, 2016, 2:55pm

ANOTHER thread about this.

Holy cow.

thebloodyaugust · May 3, 2016, 2:55pm

O joy a class reset thread asking for another class reset thread. No thanks. Already flagged as spam, ill be taking my leave.

soldatazur · May 3, 2016, 3:04pm

You should really be proud of you to keep illustrating what he was saying first :

If you are not able to moderate yourself IMC can do dis !

tzxazrael · May 3, 2016, 3:04pm

of course it’s not. because you’re special and unique, not like EVERYONE ELSE WHO POSTED THE SAME THING.

us “angry baboons” (yes, great start to keeping it civil) simply think the correct amount of Job resets, no matter how light or how strong, is exactly zero.
we don’t care what you plan to make different about your unique and special version of a job reset, because we’ve probably seen it already. i can’t imagine you can add some new way to do it after all the other threads posting -their- special and unique way of doing it.

newest rank (only). newest rank (repeatable). any 1 rank. all job ranks.
preserve exp. discard exp. discard exp but get a bonus to recovering it.

what’s your excuse going to be if you get your poll, and the results continue to resoundingly shout “NO” in your face?
“well, those “angry baboons” must have rigged the vote. it wasn’t properly counted. there was an error. just give us a reset anyway!”
because it simply can’t be that you’re on the losing side, right?

Skyfire · May 3, 2016, 3:08pm

Rest assured that the developers and the marketing team are discussing this subject internally. What’s the harm in letting the community discuss it publicly? If you’re not interested in that discussion, just leave and stop posting in this thread. You and your attitude will not be missed.

And thanks for the flag. It’s the best way to draw their attention.

soldatazur · May 3, 2016, 3:10pm

If you already won, why are you still here ?

He’s asking for an official poll, why being so afraid if you already know the result ? I do understand you are aware about the IMC health but if they do it, it will stop those spams and IMC will not get a cancer.

bephamoth · May 3, 2016, 3:12pm

@soldatazur @Skyfire
I agree some tooltips description may be wrong and a less blur vision on what skills does could be nice.

BUT there are some sites like TOS base and players reviews who gives you enough info on class role or to chose wich class you would like to play.

Now if you plan your class on two missing tooltips info or on «currently» bugged/Over Powered skills, there are no clues for you.

tzxazrael · May 3, 2016, 3:17pm

i would love to see an official poll. problem is, i really don’t think it will stop all this spam.
…if they get their yes vote, then it will be more spam on what kind of reset it should be, and why their method is the right type (or why the method chosen in the poll is the right/wrong type.)
…if they get a no vote, they’ll just ignore it and keep begging for resets anyway.