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Buller Marker and Outrage - the death of QS3/BM?

Class and Rank Archer
#1

We’ve all seen the gif, now. That’s quite possibly a worse Running Shot.

All we’ve got is speculation at this point, but it damned well looks like they’re trying to detach QS from BM. I’m not sure how I feel about this - BM single target is mediocre in the new Archer landscape, and if the new circle skill of BM3 is a redundant copy of a feature we all have already, I’d say BM might be left in bad shape. Of course, if it performed similarly, we’d have an enormous degree of flexibility in terms of builds added to our possible options. Might even come out stronger as a result.

It might also be something we can use in tandem with Running Shot, but somehow I doubt it.

On the other hand, if it was weaker than Running Shot… Yikes. That’d be the death of the circle until major revisions. Nobody rolls a Bullet Market for the AOE, or even the single target damage. They play it to run and gun.

Do any of you have more baseless speculation to share?

#2

I’d say it’s something like Retreat shot at best, with a long cooldown.

If it’s that I think I’d still pair it with QS3. Not sure if Ranger 15% steady aim and some crit buff and debuffs would be good to pair with it, yet.

#3

[C1 Skill] Retreat Shot

Cooldown is reduced from 30 to 20 seconds. Extending the buff will no longer increase the duration of the attack (fixed at 10 seconds).

[C3 Skill] Marching Fire

Cooldown is reduced from 30 to 15 seconds. Extending the buff will no longer increase the duration of the attack (fixed at 5 seconds).

Long cooldown, y’say?

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#4

No, I mean the new BM skill Outrage might function like retreat shot with a long cooldown.

I’m not talking about retreat shot or any SR skill.

#5

Oof. That’d kill the circle, unless the damage was ■■■■■■■ massive, mate.

#6

Hopefully it’ll be a toggle like DGS :tired:

#7

knowing imc, it’s certainly possible. Balance fixes and a lot of changes after initial implementation on test server, so we’ll see

#8

Assuming it was a toggle and the functionality was similar to Running Shot, and it couldn’t be used with Running Shot, what would you guys replace the newly useless three circles of Quarrel Shooter with?

#9

Ranger should be nice, basically SR 2.0, lol

#10

If it’s a channel like marching fire (locks out skill use and AA), then it’s worse that being a weak RS. If it’s an aura like fanatic illusion where you are allowed to do other stuff THEN it would be good.

Like OP said:

#11

I’d like to see something like:
For every X uses of X skill, Usage of Outrage becomes available.

Once used, enter outrage stance where it modifies your AA to be AOE, which also stacks with RS.

This turns the whole BM kit useful while keeping QS3 useful, too.

#12

Too complicated.

Probably be something like 5s duration 2mins CD

Then balanced in 2020 for 5s duration 15s CD

Oh wait.:distinguished:

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#13

I’m quite curious as to why they don’t want to AA with BM’s. Why would tracer bullet: precision shot not include AA’s on a class that requires an AA stance to activate some skills. It’s even weirder when another new BM3 skill is AA exlusive (freeze bullet).

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