Since im oracle i think i will not put that extra point on Bloodletting because prophecy can cover the cd of bloodletting.
Because that i will not put points on beak mask too, what you think?
If you care about PvP, Beak Mask is important. Prophecy nor Bloodletting will prevent Incineration, Toxic Spray, or Malleus Maleficarum.
@Veritas I have now only one doubt as a priest 3 full pvp: After nerf, revive lvl10 Still worth it? I think with new equipaments Aspersio will do a lot of defense for pvp/gvg (50% is huge).
What you think?
is Toxic Spray from PD 2 level 3 debuff?
Okay, I thought as much, thank you thank you.
@Veritas hi, which one do u think has more overall dps?c2-kriv3-bokor2-taoist or c2-kriv3-druid2-taoist?thanks a lot…
If you go bokor take Pd at rank 7 will be a better dpser, The Druid build is alright for sustain , good luck with silvers in taoist 
just to mention… with the recently buff to druid you can consider leveling until lv 4 the skill Shape shifting to buff your skills with attributes from transformations is acctualy very good
Hey there @Veritas,
How would you compare these builds:
- Cleric2/Diev3/Druid1/PD2
- Cleric2/Diev3/Druid2/PD1
Of course PD2 brings a lot to the table, but Druid2 adds some nice stuff as well:
- Stronger Carnivory
- Sterea Troph
- Added utility with transforms (ie. Spider with 110 extra atk each hit and 40% extra mdef/phys def or panto speed). On top of that having PD1 you also get 2 overheat incinerate (after the rank8 update), which helps in the dmg department.
How would you compare the 2 in terms of overall viablity in pvp?
Sometimes Sterea Troph is a lifesaver for teammates while cc’ed in GvG/tbl. Or is the dmg gap with rank 8 classes to overwhelming, making it manditory to pick a rank 8?
Edit: added rank update
Both are good. Druid C2 offers a few more options in style in gameplay, but doesn’t get the great tools PD C2 offers, which is ability to catch (Plague Vapors + Pandemic) or Disenchant for PvP.
I’d say that Druid C2 is a stronger pick for survival in PvE, while PD C2 offers more general damage in both facets and better PvP ability overall.
does anybody try PANDEMIC while using CONVICTION as debuff skill from PAL? does it work ?
@Veritas
Saw you mention a bunch of times about the talisman cost turning you off from Taoist - I assume you know, but they’ve decreased the number of talismans required for at least a few of the skills.
That said, did you ever get confirmation on whether or not Plague Vapors can be antidoted? To my knowledge the fact that the debuff is Rank 3 prevents this but not quite sure.
Hey there veritas… may i ask you some question?
After reading your guide, i am really tempting to make dievdirbys… just one question, how would you compare between priest or druid for rank 6? I mean I like to do earth tower with diev3, but also pvp and gvg and also world bossing. So which one should i choose? Can you give me pros and cons for each choice? Thx before. And after the release of rank 8, if you can choose your class again, which one would you pick after cleric 2 diev 3? Tq.
Im not veritas but… i can confirm Priest>>>>>>Druid, druid1 is ■■■■ @rudysoetanto55 , believe me i followed The same path as veritas and had regrets
@fortheovermind - I saw the reduction cost, but the fact that it’s another material class to fill my inventory and drain my money and call for me to travel to re-stock is a bit much. I would find it overbearing over time on a main character. I’m unsure if Antidote can remove it or not just yet. I’m also curious of Wugushi’s Detoxify vs. it.
@rudysoetanto55 - Druid C1 is a selfish, selfish pick. It provides more damage during bosses/small mobbing and Telepath which takes a huge deal of skill to use in PvP without getting yourself killed. Priest C1 has a generally better impact in PvE environment at late gameplay as well as a better carry capability in TBL.
That being said, I wouldn’t change my R6 pick personally. I enjoy what Druid C1 has given me up until this point, though I can see the pick falling off later on.
Hey @Veritas,
Do you think Pardoner 1 would be good for hybrid PvE/PvP C2-Diev3-PD route? I’m thinking Discerning Evil would be both a boon in PvE and PvP, where certain status ailments can help win the match and it’ll boost my Incineration/Plague of Vapors damage for those high level mobs in the future (the new mobs in KR already have a lot of HP) I’ll also be able to boost magic defense (albeit small due to no SPR) for general purposes. I can totally see Pardoner being a pain to level since I’d have to wait for PD 1 and 2 just to use discerning evil on my own. Thanks in advance.
Hi there @Teitoku,
This has been adressed by Veritas several times in this thread. Although I can’t blame you for not reading 600+ replies .
Short version: He said it’s not worth a rank, because with all the debuffs incineration already has almost 100% uptime. Even more so with pd2. You’re better of with a different rank6.
Going by the core of Veritas’ build you’ve got the choice of druid/oracle/priest which all have their merits.
@ontherox11 : I’ve since changed my mind about Pardoner C1 and it’s usefulness, strictly for Indulgentia in PvP to combat things like Raise as well as the slight bonus from Increased Magic Defense. Discerning Evil may not be as useful to us personally, but it can extend numerous powerful debuffs that have made an appearance with R8, making it worthwhile for party play. It has it’s usefulness and I’d argue it’s more sound for future content than Druid C1.
To everyone else, the guide is somewhat updated for R8. At it’s core anyways. Please visit the changelog at the top of the opening post to see what is different.
Also I guess I never wrote this anywhere but Heal also counts as a debuff against Incineration. It is a little bit harder to use because the timing window is so narrow. Heal damages by inflicting a 1 second debuff on the enemy, hence why it can be resisted using things like Prophecy, Bloodletting, and Beak Mask. If used right before Incineration, it can trigger the burn or extend it an additional two seconds.
Very useful if everything else is on cooldown and there’s no other debuff source available.
Incineration got a buff on range?