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Build comparison for Bullet Marker at rank9?

Class and Rank Archer
#1

Hello, I’m kind of struggling between two builds, both ending in Bullet Marker and mostly focused on solo PvE

First is Archer > Ranger 3 > Appraiser > SR3 > BM, which i’ve been using (a variation of) until now, it’s very fun, but I kinda feel like I’m missing out on BM’s full potential for being unable to use dual gun stance (and therefore the coolest skill in the kit, bloody overdrive) because i need to be mounted

The second is Archer 2 > QS 3> Falconer 3> BM, which i’ve only started testing recently and although it’s also really fun, i feel like my damage is really not that great, especially in crowded places, since preemptive attack has kind of a long interval between procs.

So, if anyone could answer, i have a few questions:

  • Considering the raw auto attack damage on both builds, considering SR with only lv15 limacon active and Falconer with only lv15 running shot and lv5 double gun stance active, both wearing the exact same gear and exact same stats, etc, which has the highest damage per second? Because I know each SR(with limacon) attack is stronger, but also much slower than Falconer(with double gun and running shot)

  • I saw a video of someone playing as SR and attacking much faster than i can attack in game, but the video is kinda old, was there some attack speed nerf between the beggining of 2017 and now (kinda returning now after a long time away) or am i missing something? i know running shot doesn’t stack with limacon.

  • Is Bullet Marker’s double gun stance skillset (like bloody overdrive and eventually mozambique drill when rank10 comes out) even worth focusing on or should i rather focus on how BM complements other builds (with like tase and silver bullet) than having the build focus on BM itself?

  • If the whole Dual Gun Stance kit is indeed worth it, is there another build that i’m missing out on that focuses more on it instead of Bullet Marker being just kind of an extra to the falconer build?

Any answer is appreciated and thank you in advance!! :slight_smile:

#2

Don’t bother with SR3. BM3 can do everything SR3 can, except riding.

Limacon + Double Gun Stance have different scaling. Limacon add damage to your attack while draining SP when using secondary attack, while Double Gun Stance add damage to your attack on Primary attack. This means Double Gun Stance can work with QS3 Running Shot, but not Limacon.

For more details explanation:

QS3 Running shot + BM
lvl 9 Running Shot (+3 from Masinios Crossbow and +1 from Deadborn Scap Archer Gem) = 320% additional damage
lvl 5 Double Gun Stance = 50% additional damage
Total Damage = 470%

SR3 Limacon
lvl 16 Limacon (+1 from Masinios Pistol) = 200% additional damage
lvl 100 Limacon: Enhance = 60% increased total damage
Total Damage = 100% + (200% * 160%) = 420%

So as you can already see, with very specific setup, QS3 + BM outdamage SR3 eventually. However, it’s worth noting that Limacon can ricochet to another nearby target, so this make mobbing slightly easier.

#3

I see, thank you very much for the quick response.
Is it possible to have a QS3 and BM build with more ranks focusing on buffing BM rather than the more support-oriented falconer? Like maybe getting some cycles in ranger since steady aim was greatly buffed recently, or appraiser (double gun stance damage is based on pistol damage, right?)? Or is falconer still the best option there is because of preemptive strike?
Thanks in advance :slight_smile:

#4

The only “buff” class available are either QS3, Ranger3, Wugushi, Appraiser and Falconer. Falconer shine at C3, but it being R6 class making it difficult to build into BM, because you can only reach C3 with one, but not both until Rank 11 patch.

#5

I see… thank you for the answers.

#6

It’s fun to play but not super strong at the moment. I highly recommend Appraiser in there somewhere. Overestimate and Devaluation are both exceptional damage increases for a single circle investment.

#7

Oh, nice i got a question.
QS3 + BM = 470% and SR3 = 420%, what about retreat shot , it can be used with limalicon so add atk percent, it will be better than qs3 + bm?