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Black/Brown skins

I take that as a “yes, i understand the difference between lore and history”.

And assuming there were black people - which is irrelevant since generally the majority counts - IMC interpretation of the story of the game, and it’s excecution, are in their hands. If they decide to not to have darker skin colors to cement the lore, then that is an acceptable decision.

Glad to know that there will be no darker colors due to the lore. Gotcha, glad I found this out before I spent my money. I’ll pass this on to my friends who were also looking forward to playing the game.

I’m almost sure that’s not the case. They even said back then if they would implement cloth dyeing they would want to make different skin colors first so…

I think Ethan said it because originally it was made like that and it is not easy to change and most likely it is not a priority yet.

… so your are a SJW. Someone who wants - for all the wrong reasons - any and all skin colors in any game, just so “equality” is achieved.

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He implied enough.

@NoElement
Wrong reasons? I’ve proved otherwise by including real history which proves contrary to their statements. The answer he gave showed me that its not the game I’m looking to play. If that’s cause to call me an SJW then so be it. If its wrong to prove something wrong by showing historical fact then I guess I’m wrong.

They have the right to make the game how they want and I have the right not to play it because I disagree with their choices - because factually they are incorrect.

Besides majority matters right? Then I’ll spend my money elsewhere.

So they changed their plans. It’s a human thing to do.

Besides the NPC image, the “setting also reflects those aspects” excuse can’t be used to not create alternative skin colors when you have multiple classes and technology that exist completely outside of the mythology itself.

Don’t be lazy!!! ):<

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Well Ill still play because I think it will be a good game to kill some time from time to time.

But I do wish they would implement different skin tones. I highly doubt that they have everything from lore in the game 100% from A to Z. And its 2016 why not add different customization for the Players sake and not because its a Whites only Lore. that just sounds primitive and somewhat irrelevant to today’s culture.
And
Back me up if I am wrong but you can have a lore of the game but that shouldn’t involve what color players are in the lore. I mean would it really make that much of a difference?

Would some players just feel so down in the dumps all because some players aren’t white?

again seems a bit petty or primitive.

and yes I was reading something from last year, stating that color skin tones is something that they are going to look into. unless that was just said to quiet up that one thread.

meh. They can do as they please, but it just seems weird to not add it in a MMORPG where thousands of players will be playing.

Sadly I think this game might only survive with private servers after some time…

I’m sure they could add skin tones, way more eye and hair colors etc but ToS team is being plain lazy. One of the reasons why so many people played RO in private servers was the ability to choose costume and hair colors from MANY options. It sucks that legit servers don’t care about stuff like that, while those small things make a large population of the players much happier and would even spend money to buy them with tp. I mean jesus just 1 person could whip up different color options in few hours and they would pretty surely make a lot of cash with it.

This seems bump worthy :o

Bumping this again.

Not asking for a new suite of costumes here, just a slightly darker skin option. Dark-skinned players are a thing that exists.

Edit: Also, if I understand the previous posts correctly, the game’s creators are embracing the “Whites Only” aspect of Lithuanian lore but ignoring other aspects of it (Lithuanian Shinobis? Anime-Inspired Art?)…

It sounds like you guys just don’t like dark-skinned people.

@STAFF_Ethan

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that would be cool, +1 for that…but before they do this…they could make Male chars looks like Male, all the chars in the game looks like girls…even they hairstyles. =(

"make males look more male"
uhh they look pretty male to me

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neat, a katanagatari fan.

Also, recolors are probably the easiest thing to implement on this earth other than like, word censors, given that their character models aren’t a disorganized mess (given they implemented eye colors I highly doobt)

More money and/or content for little work. gogogo

I rly don’t know much about these things but I’m not sure it is easy.

The face and the body are already separated and if you look at those cut out things…
…like this:

As I understood they put these cut outs on the models somehow… and the problematic part is that these include skin parts too.
So maybe I’m wrong as I said I dunno too much about these but I’m afraid they should actually make a black etc. skin version of every class 1 by 1 because of this…? not sure. But I guess they could do that too anyway.

I never understood this… They look male to me. Even with ponytail. They are not overly manly for sure but they are boyish.

On the other hand if they would make different models and you could choose different body types later I wouldn’t mind… but I’m afraid that would be a lot of work too to make…
Although beards would be rly welcome already…and hopefully that one shouldn’t even be a big problem.

Most artists use layers for different parts, and you can literally recolor using tone sliders that are available in even simple programs like paint tool sai. All opacity and whatnot is kept. Even if they don’t seperate skin from clothing via layers, it’s very easy to isolate a certain color set in photoshop and use tone sliders from there.

That’s why you see a lot of fan recolors of stuff, haha. It is troublesome that they decided to merge clothing layers with skin layers rather than base it on a single model, but it still shouldn’t be difficult.

I see. That’s good to hear. Then I hope they will do it sometime. :relaxed:

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I tweaked some of the game’s textures and put everything back together to show what it would/could look like. This is maybe 2 hours of work using some masks in photoshop…

And here are a couple closeup screen caps:

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@Staff_ethan I disagree that being an excuse/ answer to the skin color change.

Because

  1. A game should not be race based.
  2. I am Latvian ( neighbour country of Lithiuanian, and my mythology is also featured in the game). It’s not as old Lithuanian’s had never seen a dark skinned person. There are gypsies and other nationalities who’s skin is indeed darker and they would live in the same region.

The only thing you could say is - KToS does not feature dark skin, so there for the Western game doesn’t have one either.
Though I don’t know if that is indeed true.

I still think there should be an option to chose a skin color at least with 3 different tones, instead of being forced to go white.

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