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Best class build for Full DEX after Archer3?

Not asking for status build advice.

I’m taking Archer3 for Kneeling Shot, but don’t know which classes to take next. I heard QS’ Running Shot scales extremely well with it?

running shot auto hits cant even crit, you dont go full dex if you go QS3. Full dex isnt even a thing since ages, its kinda bad, you can reach 70% crit rate with 2:1 str/dex easily and 100% if you get a slave support.

Didn’t ask for an advice for my status build doe. I meant to ask which classes are the best (or the least bad?) for a Full DEX build.

its qs3 for AA
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Incorrect. QS3 AA can absolutely crit and you can have all yellow numbers flying all over the place. You’re probably basing your theory on an incorrect formula. Also, show me how you can hit 70% crit chance at level 280 on 2:1 STR/DEX with any monsters that have crit resistance. In order to achieve 70% crit chance, even with monsters that have zero crit resistance (are there any?), you would need 467 crit rate. That’s assuming zero crit resistance. Assuming 100 crit resistance, you would need 567. Not happening with a 2:1 STR:DEX build.

Full DEX is definitely viable and most of the spreadsheets out there comparing STR and DEX lack the basic math logic and objectivity required to provide an accurate, unbiased analysis.

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May I know if there’s some other classes that go well with Full DEX A3? Tbh I’m not really into QS because most QS pretty much has the same, fixed, EQ: Grand Cross, Arde/Karacha Dagger, statuses, skills, class build and such. I wanna make a character of classes that people have different variety of their own build, if that’s possible? I might go R3, but I heard it’s not the best class to go Full DEX?

a3 > r3 > cannon or musket

only skills that have high modifier are good with full dex (such as canoneer, musketeer)
but it’s not like you can only use those skill

that’s why full DEX are bad builds, it’s even worse than full STR without rogue

dont go full dex

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well you do not have choice but QS. Ranger doesn’t need dex as it has crit shot not even spiral arrow needs it as it has crit attr too.

if you go QS3 and got the running shot the 200% damage will actually gave you the same base damage of those STR build without running shot.

and since dex type will surely be going after gladiator band and other crit attack based items which most of them also has AOE attack ratio then you ended up going for Cannoneer.

A3>QS3>C1

but I suggest you wait before you do full dex coz there is a rumor that block penetration will be transfer to STR.

Forgot to mention the QS Attribute Shield Mastery that blocks a lot… which will make those some unevaded hit be blocked instead.

outdate kid

  1. Ranger will not need DEX if you only use that whimpy crit shot which does awful dmg and spiral arrow which have 36s cd

  2. RS from QSc3 gor corrected it description (which make it’s much weaker)
    instead of increased base dmg by %
    it’s now deal additional attacks by % of base attack (which can’t even crit)

  3. Few crit attack from 2 glad bands can’t cover your tiny dmg and it cost too much to get even one

  4. STR gives block pen are not rumor it’s already apply in KrToS

  5. Shield mastery only block range attack

ok sorry, IT CANT CRIT anymore on kTOS, chances are we get their patches it wont crit anymore for us also. The only thing that can crit is your BASE damage, but the 200% bonus damage from running shot CANNOT crit, which ends in very bad scaling from running shot and doing 100% dex makes it even worse as the 200% wont gain anything from it.

You can easily get 70% with green gem, double sissl, swift step and 2:1 (about 230 dex), ofc always depening on the monter, add in decent krivi and you even reach 100% easily.

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The DEX vs STR debate all over again. Let him build dex if he wants. It helps to dodge stuff too, which is quite nice for survivability. I’d also be interested in what Archer classes scale best with full dex.

The guy who mentioned bout the nerf of RS in reddit didnt even post any ktos patch link bout it? Can someone give a confirmed info else this is just another bs.
Ktos patch links? Videos?
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There are no kTOS patch notes about running shot not critting because it was coded that way from the beginning. In iTOS, they changed the damage formula for running shot for some reason. Whether this was intended or not, I’m not sure.

If it was coded from the beginning in ktos, else why are there still videos of QS with RS doing crits in every 2hits? :sweat_smile:

Please read carefully… the damage bonus from running shot doesn’t crit, but your base attack still does.

hmm so based on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTCKhW39reI&app=desktop

it still look like the dmg bonus are critting tho

Running shot never could crit in kToS it was changed in iToS

You seem to be in huge denial lol. But anyway that damage can be achieved even with kTOS formula. Notice he is a pure STR build, and we don’t know anything about his items

he said read carefully.

You have basic attack crit and the 280% from running shot is ADDED on top of that. Ofc the yellow number is going to BE HIGHER SINCE THE running shot 280% is added AFTER the crit.

Logic much for some ppl.

TLDR; the running shot % bonus damage is NOT ADDED INTO THE CRIT DAMAGE FORMULAR.